Thanks for the clarification Ron, so glad to hear the those poor kitties were not dining on his corpse!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron L" <lhera...@bu.edu> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l@oldcrank.org> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 8:55:03 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [Phono-L] Phono forum problem
I don't think he's talking about phonolist which is a mailing list and not a message board. ?Phonolist was and is Paul's list. ?He made the rules and worked hard to keep the list spam/spammer free. ?Yes it was a PITA to get on the list. ?Then he got busy with work. ?He is still alive and it is still HIS list. ?However, someone else is helping him check out new applicants, so there is little wait time to get on the list, and it is still spam free. Ron L -----Original Message----- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of john9...@pacbell.net Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 10:55 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono forum problem I'd say poetic justice, but that's too cruel. ------Original Message------ From: Peter Fraser Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org To: Antique Phonograph List ReplyTo: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono forum problem Sent: Mar 11, 2009 7:50 PM Are you talking about that a-hole Paul Something-or-other of ? phonolist? ?He abandoned them for a few years, effectively shutting it ? to any membership changes...and I heard he later was found dead in his ? manhattan hovel, partially eaten by his cats. Sent from my iPhone -- Peter pjfra...@mac.com On Mar 11, 2009, at 6:50 PM, john9...@pacbell.net wrote: > Hopefully it replaced the one where this crazy old coot thought he ? > was the end all be all of phonograph board leaders. If you said ? > anything he didn't agree with, you got flamed like crazy. Once he ? > called me all these names off list and some on list. That was the ? > only phono guy I could say I hate. He was a vicious, rabid dog who ? > regularly victimized board contributors. > ------Original Message------ > From: DanKj > Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org > To: Antique Phonograph List > ReplyTo: Antique Phonograph List > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono forum problem > Sent: Mar 11, 2009 5:35 PM > > Seems to be so many of these messageboards, now .... ?which one did ? > this > replace, if any? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Daniel Melvin" <d...@old-phonographs.com> > To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l@oldcrank.org> > Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 7:01 PM > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono forum problem > > >> Try this... >> >> http://victrolagramophones.proboards.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From pjfra...@alamedanet.net Thu Mar 12 11:51:42 2009 From: pjfra...@alamedanet.net (Peter Fraser) Date: Thu Mar 12 11:51:51 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Phono forum problem In-Reply-To: <003a01c9a311$c2ac8ef0$4ed62...@ad.bu.edu> References: <100696611-1236826484-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-7700764...@bxe1210.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <003a01c9a311$c2ac8ef0$4ed62...@ad.bu.edu> Message-ID: <bd25eab4-4ee6-4512-b117-b6e89e400...@alamedanet.net> Nope, he's been dead since 2005. You can verify it on the Social Security Death Index (google "SSDI" to find it), plus he hasn't posted on the list (or board or listserv or whatever), or responded to any requests since that time. The cat part isn't as easy to verify but every time I've been told of his death that's been part of the story. Happens a lot when lonely people with pets die and nobody finds them for a while. On Mar 12, 2009, at 5:55 AM, "Ron L" <lhera...@bu.edu> wrote: > I don't think he's talking about phonolist which is a mailing list > and not a > message board. Phonolist was and is Paul's list. He made the rules > and > worked hard to keep the list spam/spammer free. Yes it was a PITA > to get on > the list. Then he got busy with work. He is still alive and it is > still > HIS list. However, someone else is helping him check out new > applicants, so > there is little wait time to get on the list, and it is still spam > free. > > Ron L > > -----Original Message----- > From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org > ] On > Behalf Of john9...@pacbell.net > Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 10:55 PM > To: Antique Phonograph List > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono forum problem > > I'd say poetic justice, but that's too cruel. > ------Original Message------ > From: Peter Fraser > Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org > To: Antique Phonograph List > ReplyTo: Antique Phonograph List > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono forum problem > Sent: Mar 11, 2009 7:50 PM > > Are you talking about that a-hole Paul Something-or-other of > phonolist? He abandoned them for a few years, effectively shutting it > to any membership changes...and I heard he later was found dead in his > manhattan hovel, partially eaten by his cats. > > Sent from my iPhone > > -- Peter > pjfra...@mac.com > > On Mar 11, 2009, at 6:50 PM, john9...@pacbell.net wrote: > >> Hopefully it replaced the one where this crazy old coot thought he >> was the end all be all of phonograph board leaders. If you said >> anything he didn't agree with, you got flamed like crazy. Once he >> called me all these names off list and some on list. That was the >> only phono guy I could say I hate. He was a vicious, rabid dog who >> regularly victimized board contributors. >> ------Original Message------ >> From: DanKj >> Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org >> To: Antique Phonograph List >> ReplyTo: Antique Phonograph List >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono forum problem >> Sent: Mar 11, 2009 5:35 PM >> >> Seems to be so many of these messageboards, now .... which one did >> this >> replace, if any? >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Daniel Melvin" <d...@old-phonographs.com> >> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l@oldcrank.org> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 7:01 PM >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono forum problem >> >> >>> Try this... >>> >>> http://victrolagramophones.proboards.com/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >> >> >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >> _______________________________________________ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From john9...@pacbell.net Thu Mar 12 12:49:13 2009 From: john9...@pacbell.net (john robles) Date: Thu Mar 12 12:49:21 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Victor III HEEEEEEELP! Message-ID: <798350.63564...@web83001.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I swear I am going to chop this Vic III to BITS....I am so frustrated... I got this Vic III a couple of year ago. Nice machine. It had a Vic IV horn, which I sold and then purchased a really nice Victor III horn. I finally took it to sell at a GSPS meeting. Someone pointed out that the beck bracket and tonearm were from a Victor II. I took it off the market because I didn't want to be dishonest and say it was all original. I searched and searched and found a kind person who traded me the Vic II bracket, arm and elbow (and a small amount of cash) for a Vic III bracket and arm (no elbow). The bracket has new decals, but looks ok. The II arm had lost most of the decals. Also the new tonearm looks great. Except for one thing. It is too long. I don't know what it is from - it is obviously a Victor outside horn tonearm, but if I line it up to the center of the spindle and put the reproduce down, the needle touches down about an inch out front of the spindle, instead of on center which it should do. I am about at the end of my rope. I've spent a lot of time and money to the point where I will have to keep this for awhile til values go up - as is I would need $2400 for it. Anybody got a true Vic III tonearm that they can send me the measurements to? Anybody got a true Vic III/IV/V tonearm available??? Save me!!!! Thanks John Robles From bruce78...@comcast.net Thu Mar 12 12:50:56 2009 From: bruce78...@comcast.net (bruce78...@comcast.net) Date: Thu Mar 12 12:56:04 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Phono forum problem In-Reply-To: <bd25eab4-4ee6-4512-b117-b6e89e400...@alamedanet.net> Message-ID: <412845163.6233591236887456490.javamail.r...@sz0019a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Yes, I just went into that website, did you mean Paul R. Flint age 72 of New York?? is that the fellow? How do we know for sure it is the same Paul Flint from the Phonolist. The reason I asked is that discussion came up before, and some one pointed out his passing and than it was contradicted by someone else, so it was never resolved. What was it that Mark Twain once said? "The reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated". Can we confirm this one way or another absolutely positively, just like the coroner in Munchkin City did with the Wicked Witch of the West?? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Fraser" <pjfra...@alamedanet.net> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l@oldcrank.org> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 2:51:42 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono forum problem Nope, he's been dead since 2005. You can verify it on the Social Security Death Index (google "SSDI" to find it), plus he hasn't posted on the list (or board or listserv or whatever), or responded to any requests since that time. The cat part isn't as easy to verify but every time I've been told of his death that's been part of the story. Happens a lot when lonely people with pets die and nobody finds them for a while. On Mar 12, 2009, at 5:55 AM, "Ron L" <lhera...@bu.edu> wrote: > I don't think he's talking about phonolist which is a mailing list > and not a > message board. Phonolist was and is Paul's list. He made the rules > and > worked hard to keep the list spam/spammer free. Yes it was a PITA > to get on > the list. Then he got busy with work. He is still alive and it is > still > HIS list. However, someone else is helping him check out new > applicants, so > there is little wait time to get on the list, and it is still spam > free. > > Ron L > > -----Original Message----- > From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org > ] On > Behalf Of john9...@pacbell.net > Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 10:55 PM > To: Antique Phonograph List > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono forum problem > > I'd say poetic justice, but that's too cruel. > ------Original Message------ > From: Peter Fraser > Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org > To: Antique Phonograph List > ReplyTo: Antique Phonograph List > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono forum problem > Sent: Mar 11, 2009 7:50 PM > > Are you talking about that a-hole Paul Something-or-other of > phonolist? He abandoned them for a few years, effectively shutting it > to any membership changes...and I heard he later was found dead in his > manhattan hovel, partially eaten by his cats. > > Sent from my iPhone > > -- Peter > pjfra...@mac.com > > On Mar 11, 2009, at 6:50 PM, john9...@pacbell.net wrote: > >> Hopefully it replaced the one where this crazy old coot thought he >> was the end all be all of phonograph board leaders. If you said >> anything he didn't agree with, you got flamed like crazy. Once he >> called me all these names off list and some on list. That was the >> only phono guy I could say I hate. He was a vicious, rabid dog who >> regularly victimized board contributors. >> ------Original Message------ >> From: DanKj >> Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org >> To: Antique Phonograph List >> ReplyTo: Antique Phonograph List >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono forum problem >> Sent: Mar 11, 2009 5:35 PM >> >> Seems to be so many of these messageboards, now .... which one did >> this >> replace, if any? >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Daniel Melvin" <d...@old-phonographs.com> >> To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l@oldcrank.org> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 7:01 PM >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Phono forum problem >> >> >>> Try this... >>> >>> http://victrolagramophones.proboards.com/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org >> >> >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >> _______________________________________________ >> Phono-L mailing list >> http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org From cen...@comcast.net Thu Mar 12 12:58:47 2009 From: cen...@comcast.net (Albert) Date: Thu Mar 12 12:59:32 2009 Subject: [Phono-L] Victor III HEEEEEEELP! References: <798350.63564...@web83001.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000d01c9a34c$f4d63210$7501a...@albert> What is the difference between a Vic 4 horn and a Vic 3 horn? ----- Original Message ----- From: "john robles" <john9...@pacbell.net> To: <phono-l@oldcrank.org> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 12:49 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Victor III HEEEEEEELP! >I swear I am going to chop this Vic III to BITS....I am so frustrated... > I got this Vic III a couple of year ago. Nice machine. It had a Vic IV > horn, which I sold and then purchased a really nice Victor III horn. I > finally took it to sell at a GSPS meeting. Someone pointed out that the > beck bracket and tonearm were from a Victor II. I took it off the market > because I didn't want to be dishonest and say it was all original. I > searched and searched and found a kind person who traded me the Vic II > bracket, arm and elbow (and a small amount of cash) for a Vic III bracket > and arm (no elbow). The bracket has new decals, but looks ok. The II arm > had lost most of the decals. Also the new tonearm looks great. Except for > one thing. It is too long. I don't know what it is from - it is obviously > a Victor outside horn tonearm, but if I line it up to the center of the > spindle and put the reproduce down, the needle touches down about an inch > out front of the spindle, instead of on center which it should do. > I am about at the end of my rope. I've spent a lot of time and money to > the point where I will have to keep this for awhile til values go up - as > is I would need $2400 for it. > Anybody got a true Vic III tonearm that they can send me the measurements > to? Anybody got a true Vic III/IV/V tonearm available??? Save me!!!! > Thanks > John Robles > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
