When shipping a machine of low to moderate value, why not just say it's a
"phonograph", omitting the word "antique". I have done that several times
and fortunately have not had a problem. And for a horn, say it's a
"phonograph speaker".
To say they are "electronics" could result in a lot of problems in case of
damage.
Ray
----- Original Message -----
From: "john robles" <john9...@pacbell.net>
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l@oldcrank.org>
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Shipping phonographs
I must admit that I once shipped a phonograph through FedEx Ground, and they
advised me about the antique rule. I wasn't sure what to do. But since it
was a phonograph, the counterperson said he'd list it under electronics so I
could get the full coverage. Of course if anything had happened, I am sure
Fedex would have fought me on it. Since that time I haven't sent any
phonographs through FedEx ground, just other items.
John Robles
--- On Sat, 1/2/10, Bob <rvu...@comcast.net> wrote:
From: Bob <rvu...@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Shipping phonographs
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l@oldcrank.org>
Date: Saturday, January 2, 2010, 4:31 AM
I used to use FedEx ground all the time. A couple of years ago I sold a very
expensive machine to someone on the west coast. I wanted to insure it for
$3000 but was informed by the clerk that the maximum insurance on antiques
shipped FedEx Ground was $100.00. On FedEx Air the maximum was $500.00. this
item was very well packed and I was more concerned with loss rather than
damage so I decided to ship it Priority Mail. It was more expensive but I
could insure it properly. I think this was about 3 years ago in January.
When I checked FedEx on line they had indeed changed the rules about
insuring antiques. It seems they were taking too many losses because of
inexperienced shippers selling on line and not packing their items properly.
I'm not selling that many things right now, but at the time I stopped using
FedEx for expensive antique items. Have any of you run into this problem? I
really like shipping with FedEx and would like to
know if the insurance policies have been changed. Thanks
----- Original Message ----- From: "john robles" <john9...@pacbell.net>
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l@oldcrank.org>
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 3:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Shipping phonographs
I typically use Priority Mail or Fed Ex Ground. UPS has commonly damaged
items so I don't use them at all. I have seen things fal off their conveyor
system at the local shipping point.
I have only had one damaged item with USPS and none with FedEx Ground. The
one I had with USPS was almost unimaginable. I double boxed a phonograph
with tons of packing material, yet in shipping part of the motor frame was
broken. It took awhile to get that claim paid.
John Robles
--- On Fri, 1/1/10, Abe Feder <abefed...@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Abe Feder <abefed...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Shipping phonographs
To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l@oldcrank.org>
Date: Friday, January 1, 2010, 7:17 PM
Hi All,
I hate to tell all of you this but there is no magic bullet. I have been in
the art business for 35 years and have used FedX , UPS and others and the
fact is that you gotta build a box that will take just about any form of bad
treatment. One of my nephews grew up working 1st for FedX -4 years and UPS-6
years and now works for a speciality shipper and freight company that deals
in special shipment of special goods. The stories he told of both companies
made my head hurt and no matter what shipper I use I build a box that will
make it almost anywhere and my last item still did not get there. They drive
a fork lift arm right through it and I used 3/4 plywood for sides. 3 months
later the customer got a ck for $15000.00. But they did EVERYTHING they
could to keep from paying the claim. Photos showing how the crate was put
together shamed them and a bit of advice from my nephew to stay on them at
least twice a week really worked.
For our phono's small units well packed under normal conditions should get
there. Larger units, either know someone who can get it back to you- or pay
the very high price of craters and freighters. On more expensive machines it
is OK but on standard ones the freight charge can make it really to
expensive to purchase a machine like a c-250. I am working through that on a
machine now.
But bottom line on a common carrier youse pays your money and takes your
chances
Happy New Year
Abe
On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Bill Boruff <boru...@flash.net> wrote:
Steve-
FedEx does not always use kid gloves when handling packages. During this
past year I shipped a banner front Edison Home in 3 boxes with each
carefully packed to withstand any rough handling. One box was for the
case,
one for the mechanism and one for the horn. The mechanism was badly
damaged
when the tines of a fork lift went completely through the center of its
box. The motor frame was broken into pieces and the bolts holding the
motor
frame to the bedplate were sheared off. It was the last time I shipped a
machine via FedEx!
Bill
On Jan 1, 2010, at 3:34 PM, Steven Medved wrote:
I highly recommend if anyone purchases a phono that the seller says will
be sent UPS, ask them to send it Fed Ex ground. I have had 2 triumphs and
an order of auto parts damaged by UPS. UPS is wonderful for small, light
parts, but larger ones seem to get dropper or crushed by their automatic
alligator mouth sorting system.
Save a phono, use Fed Ex. Also Fed Ex is much easier to collect from if
there is an accident.
Steve
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