Must get more funding for us then... :) But would be interesting. Any good pictures of a really good example online anywhere ?
Darren ¦ D P Ingram ¦ Ab Ingram Oy ¦ ¦ darren at ingram.fi ¦ www.ingram.fi ¦ ¦ ¦ MUSIC LIBRARY FINLAND - www.musiclibrary.fi ¦ ¦ +358 6 781 0275 (FIN) ¦ extn 8001 ¦ On 28 maj 2011, at 04.29, Rich wrote: > If you are looking for an example of an A&N machine that has all of its > handles and latches functional, good paint, no dry rot, all internal spars, > intact, complete manual, and not looking like it has been drug behind a > French 75 artillry cart it will cost more than $800.00. The thing weighs > something like 80lb or more. Shipping would be painful. > > On 05/27/2011 06:39 PM, Peter Fraser wrote: >> Exactly correct - and a far better way of describing the meaning and >> experience of the beast than my original words on the topic. >> >> Upon re-reading my earlier note, written while jostling along on public >> transportation, I see that I came off as rather brusque in my assessment of >> the thing. What I meant to say was that these things are not for casual >> collectors and are bigger and heavier, while not being very visually >> attractive, than most folks would enjoy. >> >> So especially considering the prices they seem to be commanding, it may not >> be worth the pursuit for a lot of collectors. I was just trying to share my >> own experience with an army/navy dd, which wasn't unpleasant financially, >> but otherwise not very worthwhile at all. >> >> On May 27, 2011, at 12:45 PM, bruce78...@comcast.net wrote: >> >>> Ugly and clunkyness of the A& N, was part of the beauty of the History of >>> it. It was never intended to be put on display in your living room (Quite a >>> frightening thought), but rather designed to be rugged, and dependable and >>> useful for the boys in the battlefield to lug it around and play records >>> around the campfire. Edison designed it for one purpose in mind. and that >>> was doing his patriotic best, to design a machine that would be functional >>> and hold up under unusual conditions and circumstances. If you are not into >>> the colorful history of Edison, World War I, and the Edison A&N, it would >>> be a certain mistake to buy one . I gave a lecture about a month ago at a >>> Local Historical Society, on Edison's Phonographs and Diamond Disc Records, >>> and took along my Edison Army Navy Machine, I set up early and kept it >>> covered until the final selection of the evening, which was Let us not >>> forget played on the Edison Army Navy Machine. I told the story of the >>> creation of the Edison A& > >> N >>> machine and the Let Us Not Forget Record, and then unveiled the machine. >>> The crowd of History buffs were absolutely fascinated by it and ran up to >>> take digitals as it played LUNF . Sharing that machine and record and the >>> history behind both of them with this highly receptive crowd will always be >>> one of the highlights from my years of collecting. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Peter Fraser"< pjfraser @mac.com> >>> To: "Antique Phonograph List"<phono-l@ oldcrank .org> >>> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 2:27:19 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Army& Navy >>> >>> I had one and sold it for three times what I paid. Couldn't wait to get rid >>> of it. Ugly and clunky and huge and ungainly and heavy, and useful only to >>> completist collectors and WWI fans. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> -- Peter >>> pjfraser @mac.com >>> >>> On May 27, 2011, at 9:53 AM, William Taney<bill@ taney .com> wrote: >>> >>>> I bid on one of them too. I think I stopped at about 700 and also had the >>>> feeling it would be a machine that might wind up in storage and felt that >>>> would be a waste (what good is a machine if you don't play it occasionally) >>>> >>>> Bill >>>> On May 27, 2011, at 10:40 AM, bruce78...@comcast.net wrote: >>>> >>>> Makes you wonder what happened to all of the A&N machines that went over >>>> to the Battlefields of Europe to entertain the Troups , and what happened >>>> to all of them after the War was over. How many were abandoned over there >>>> and never brought back, and if not, what the did the respective Military >>>> units do with the machines that eventually found there way back to the USA >>>> ? >>>> >>>> Bruce >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Bruce Mercer"<maxbud12@ wowway .com> >>>> To: "Antique Phonograph List"<phono-l@ oldcrank .org> >>>> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 11:21:12 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Army& Navy >>>> >>>> I agree with Bill. I've seen four or five A/N on ebay in that time span. I >>>> remember the cheapest was 650.00, the others were right at 800.00. One was >>>> in very nice cosmetic condition with some paperwork. I almost bid on it >>>> myself it was so nice, then came to my senses about 'where' I would put it. >>>> Check religiously and one will pop up. >>>> Bruce >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Bill Taney"<bill@ taney .com> >>>> To: "Antique Phonograph List"<phono-l@ oldcrank .org> >>>> Cc: "Antique Phonograph List"<phono-l@ oldcrank .org> >>>> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 10:57 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Army& Navy >>>> >>>> >>>>> I have seen 4 up for sale in the last 2 years on eBay. They seem to be >>>>> worth about 800 bucks. >>>>> Bill >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On May 26, 2011, at 8:47 AM, ny victrolaman< victrolaman @ gmail .com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks. I've read the Frow book many times, but I was hoping for >>>>>> something >>>>>> more recent and maybe crowd-sourced. >>>>>> >>>>>> How about the second half of my inquiry: How difficult would it be to >>>>>> find >>>>>> one today in fairly good condition, and how much should such an example >>>>>> command in today's market? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 8:11 AM, Philip Carli< >>>>>> Philip_ Carli @ pittsford . monroe . edu> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Check the Frow book -- he certainly gives production history for the >>>>>>> model. >>>>>>> PC >>>>>>> ________________________________________ >>>>>>> From: phono-l-bounces@ oldcrank .org [phono-l-bounces@ oldcrank .org] On >>>>>>> Behalf Of bruce78...@comcast.net [bruce78...@comcast.net] >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 6:55 AM >>>>>>> To: Antique Phonograph List >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Army& Navy >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am not sure whether those statistics exist anywhere. If anyone would >>>>>>> know >>>>>>> it would be Author and Edison Historian and expert Ron Dethlefson or >>>>>>> possibly the curator of the Edison Historic Site. I have an original >>>>>>> Army& >>>>>>> Navy, and it has serial number 2934, which is one of the highest serial >>>>>>> numbers I have encountered for A&N Edison phonographs. How many still >>>>>>> exist >>>>>>> ? I could wager a wild guess and say, maybe less then 100 ? again, just >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> guess. I am not sure what % survival estimates, phonograph historians >>>>>>> place >>>>>>> on models where the actual production output is known. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bruce >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: " ny victrolaman "< victrolaman @ gmail .com> >>>>>>> To: "Antique Phonograph List"<phono-l@ oldcrank .org> >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 10:33:07 PM >>>>>>> Subject: [Phono-L] Edison Army& Navy >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Does anyone have any idea how many Edison Army& Navy phonographs were >>>>>>> made >>>>>>> during World War I, and how many might still exist? How hard would it be >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> find one in good (preferably original) condition, and what should one >>>>>>> expect >>>>>>> to pay for one? >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Phono-L mailing list >>>>>>> http ://phono-l. oldcrank .org >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Phono-L mailing list >>>>>>> http ://phono-l. oldcrank .org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This email message and any attachments may contain confidential >>>>>>> information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are prohibited >>>>>>> from >>>>>>> using the information in any way, including but not limited to >>>>>>> disclosure >>>>>>> of, copying, forwarding or acting in reliance on the contents. If you >>>>>>> have >>>>>>> received this email by error, please immediately notify me by return >>>>>>> email >>>>>>> and delete it from your email system. 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