Is it vegetable glycerine that is mixed with the alcholol or another  form of 
glycerine?



-----Original Message-----
From: Rich <rich-m...@octoxol.com>
To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l@oldcrank.org>
Sent: Wed, May 23, 2012 10:15 pm
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor Orthophonic Credenza adjustment


The smell kind of grows on you. One thing to keep very firmly in mind 
ith the linseed oil/turpentine mix is this is the stuff that when 
oaked up in rags in a bucket will reliably spontaneously combust. This 
s something that is usually applied with a rag pad in small doses.
On 05/23/2012 07:06 PM, DanKj wrote:
 Glycerine/alcohol was a trick used by hack piano tuners to tighten loose
 tuning pins, and has been mostly discredited. Glycerine works by
 attracting mositure from the air, so I would expect it to cause wood to
 constantly expand & contract along with the humidity in the room. I used
 linseed/turp on a Credenza, over 20 years ago, and the wood still seems
 fresh and not dried-out. My living room smelled like turpentine for
 about a year, but it wasn't overpowering.



 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Philip Carli"
 <philip_ca...@pittsford.monroe.edu>
 To: "Antique Phonograph List" <phono-l@oldcrank.org>
 Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 5:53 PM
 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor Orthophonic Credenza adjustment


> Which do you think is less invasive? I've always had mixed feelings in
> the use of both linseed oil and turpentine, but am willing to have
> another opinion to change mine...
> ________________________________________
> From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] on
> behalf of Rich [rich-m...@octoxol.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 5:37 PM
> To: Antique Phonograph List
> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Victor Orthophonic Credenza adjustment
>
> Boiled linseed oil and real turpentine will work much better. Verify all
> joints are tight first.
>
> On 05/23/2012 01:37 PM, Philip Carli wrote:
>> One thing I've been meaning to do to my Credenza that I've heard good
>> things about is resealing the horn with a 50/50 mixture of glycerine
>> and alcohol. Ideally it involves removing the motorboard and all
>> fittings (tone arm etc.) and "painting" the inside of the horn with
>> the machine upside down, then the next day turning it upright and
>> doing the same. The alcohol helps the glycerine penetrate the wood
>> and reseal any joinery that might have dried out over time, then the
>> alcohol evaporates and leaves the wood revivified. Supposedly it
>> makes for a more "forward" and resonant sound. Haven't done it yet,
>> but know people who have recommended the technique. Philip Carli
>> ________________________________________
>> From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] on
>> behalf of William Berndt [bassethoundt...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 12:53 PM
>> To: Antique Phonograph List
>> Subject: [Phono-L] Victor Orthophonic Credenza adjustment
>>
>> In February I purchased a Victor VE8-30X. I really wanted one with a
>> spring motor, but when I visited Ron Haring, of the six or so
>> machines he had (he has an unbelievable inventory - well worth a
>> visit) one was in such fine condition that I caved and bought it.
>> Having sold my Victor VV4-3, I was initially surprised that it didn't
>> sound as good - rather dull, and less volume. First I removed the
>> tonearm, and discovered there was no gasket underneath, so I made one
>> out of rubber, which improved the sound a bit. I started using my HMV
>> 5B soundbox which greatly helped the higher frequencies, and had been
>> using since, but several people said it still sounded thin with less
>> warmth and bass response than it should have. Recently, I read of
>> adjusting the screw on the soundbox balance bar, and did so in 1/8
>> turn increments - wow, what a difference! After an hour or so of
>> turns and tests, I now have dramatically more volume, and very nicely
>> balanced with highs like the HMV 5B, b
> ut
>> with better bass.
>>
>> Are there any more "tweaks" I can do? Ron already replaced the ball
>> bearings in the soundbox, and I always use teflon tape on the tonearm
>> end for a tight seal.
>>
>> Many thanks for any suggestions,
>>
>> Will
>> Chicago, IL

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