The main problem with finding set screws, is not the 5-40 thread, it is the slot, as opposed to a socket head. I have a local fastener company that stocks a bazillion screws of all types and shapes and has plenty of stock, but slotted are real hard to find, unless they are new old stock. Collectors of antique machinery of all types have bought up all of the available stock of slotted screws. I recently searched for any size slotted set screws for my restoration of a Fairy Phono Lamp - no luck - not that they might be out there somewhere, just not commonly available any more.
> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 21:21:17 -0700 > From: onatorr...@yahoo.com > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Looking for a screw for a BK.... > > Ron, > I don't know George Vollema that I know of. Is he here in the Phono-L list ? > If not how do I contact him? > Ken > > > ________________________________ > From: Ron L'Herault <lhera...@bu.edu> > To: 'Antique Phonograph List' <phono-l@oldcrank.org> > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 9:28 PM > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Looking for a screw for a BK.... > > I think you are looking for a set screw, or grub screw, probably slotted. > Try searching for that. have you asked George Vollema? > > Ron L > > -----Original Message----- > From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On > Behalf Of Ken aka: OnATorrent > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 4:18 PM > To: Antique Phonograph List > Subject: [Phono-L] Looking for a screw for a BK.... > > Hello all, > > I am looking now for a headless screw for a Columba BK. It is the size 5-40 > and holds the rod that he caraige slides across above the feed screw and > gear. It's for the rod that is in front of the mandrel. There is only one > screw and it goes on the left side of the rod. This is the BK with the > black bedplate. I am hoping I can find some one with an original one that I > do not have to alter. I called Dwyane Wyatt and he only has one that I > would have to screw in and then cut off. That is not the way I want to go > about it if I can help it. If any one has one I would be very happy to > purchase it. > I would also like to thank EVERYONE for all the help I have been given > here. I live in a very rural mile square town with it being over 100 miles > to the nearest city. It is so nice to be able to be in contact with other > collectors even though I do not get to meet anyone face to face. Maybe I > will be able to make it to the next Orlando, Florida show and get to see > some old friends and make some new ones. > Kenneth > > > ________________________________ > From: Vinyl Visions <vinyl.visi...@live.com> > To: "phono-l@oldcrank.org" <phono-l@oldcrank.org> > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 2:19 PM > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fwd: Looking for info or a 2/4 minute attachment. > > > Hi Ken,Please explain what you meant by the right hand side of the > attachment was missing... If it is just the bearing on the right side, you > already have one in your machine. He couldn't be referring to the feedscrew, > since that is permanently attached to the 2/4 gearing. The only other thing > would be the feedscrew tube, which you also already have. So, if he has the > feedscrew with the round gear case assembly attached and he has the BE plate > that has the locking post on it, you should be good. You might also need the > screws to attach the plate and the tube. Send a pic if you have one. Also, > let me know what he is asking, if you don't mind. My email is: > vinyl(dot)visions(at)live(dot)comCurt > > > Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 06:45:35 -0700 > > From: onatorr...@yahoo.com > > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fwd: Looking for info or a 2/4 minute attachment. > > > > I have a large collection of Edison 2 minute cylinders and was just in > fear that he diamond stylus in the H stylus would carve out or damage the > grooves in the was cylinders. I know what you mean about wax breaking. I > just broke my copy of Bake Dat Chicken Pie and I was almost in tears over > it. Lucky for me I found someone willing to sell thiers and it is in better > condition than mine was. So I guess it all worke out for the good. But > thanks for your input. I think I have found a 2/4 minute attachment for my > Sears Oxford that was made after the BKT so the BK conversion attachment > will work on it. How cool is that? Still no luck on a complete Colubia BE > 2/4 minute attachment. I found someone that has most of one but missing the > right hand side of it. I told him if he can find the other part I would be > more than happy to buy it. > > Again, thanks for all your help, > > Ken > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Vinyl Visions <vinyl.visi...@live.com> > > To: "phono-l@oldcrank.org" <phono-l@oldcrank.org> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 8:56 AM > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fwd: Looking for info or a 2/4 minute attachment. > > > > > > Hi Ken,Yes, you can play 2 minute cylinders with an H stylus. However, > that being said, I am not a big fan of playing wax cylinders. I don't > particularly like the brittleness of the original wax and hate it when one > breaks... also, I like the music on the Blue Amberols and Indestructibles > better, so that is what I collect. Everybody has a different idea about > this, but I have a friend who just paid a large sum for a 2 min 6" Columbia > cylinder at Union and when he got home it fell out of the box and shattered > :( Curt > > > > > Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 22:57:04 -0700 > > > From: onatorr...@yahoo.com > > > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fwd: Looking for info or a 2/4 minute > attachment. > > > > > > Bob and Curt, > > > If I do have an Edison H Stylus put in my Lyric reproducer by Steven > Medved, would I still be able to play 2 minute record with out damage to > them? The Edison 4 minute diamond stylus doesn't work on Edison 2 minute > records, does it? I have always used a K reproducer so I can switch between > 2 and 4 minute cylinders. > > > This is all a learning experience for me about Columbia reproducers and > conversion kits and the change in stylus needed. > > > Thanks to you both for your help, I really appreciate it very much. > Honestly even though I might not post always post on Phono-L, I do get a lot > out of it and everyone that I have met here has been more than helpful. I > must say if it was not for Joan and Rob Rolfs in 1993 and how they > introduced me to thier new Charter Chapter of M.A.P.S. in Wisconsin when I > was only 26. Without meeting them I would have missed out on one of the > greatist joys in my life. Now that I have been collecting for 19 years and > 45 years old, I still learn new things and always will and other than that I > feel I have met some of the nicest and honest people here that always reach > out to me when I am in need of help. > > > Thanks to you both Bob and Curt, and thanks to everyone else that has > made this a very enjoyable experience! > > > Kenneth Keeton > > > > > > PS: Sometime I will have to post here the story of how I just happened > to walk in to collecting phonographs and how it was for me at an early age. > I feel I have a very interesting story that goes to show how wonderful our > collecting community is. > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: Bob Maffit <maff...@bresnan.net> > > > To: 'Antique Phonograph List' <phono-l@oldcrank.org> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:23 PM > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fwd: Looking for info or a 2/4 minute > attachment. > > > > > > Ken: > > > > > > I can attest to the same, Steve does very credible work at a "down to > earth" > > > price. > > > > > > later > > > > > > Bob > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] > On > > > Behalf Of Vinyl Visions > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 8:14 PM > > > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fwd: Looking for info or a 2/4 minute attachmet. > > > > > > > > > Ken,If you do find a 2/4 conversion kit, you will also need a 4 minute > > > stylus in your Lyric reproducer. Finding a 4 min original Columbia > > > reproducer is another needle in a haystack and not cheap. I sent my > original > > > 2 minute Lyric to Steven Medved and he installed an Edison H needle bar > and > > > stylus, along with a copper diaphragm, which works perfectly and solved > my > > > problem. Steven is on the list frequently, so when you need him, just > ask... > > > he does great work.Curt > > > > > > > Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 14:48:47 -0700 > > > > From: onatorr...@yahoo.com > > > > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fwd: Looking for info or a 2/4 minute > attachmet. > > > > > > > > Curt, > > > > Thanks for all the information. I printed it out so I can refer back > to > > > it later. I do that with some posts so that it is easy for me to > remember > > > and cataloged. > > > > Thanks again, > > > > Kenneth > > > > PS: I book marked your welcome page. > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: Vinyl Visions <vinyl.visi...@live.com> > > > > To: "phono-l@oldcrank.org" <phono-l@oldcrank.org> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 5:05 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fwd: Looking for info or a 2/4 minute > attachmet. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ken, > > > > If you would like to see what a BE conversion looks like, go to our > > > webpage: http://www.carolinaphonosociety.com/ After clicking on ENTER, > you > > > will be on the page with a woman and Nipper - at the top of the page, > click > > > on the link "Columbia BF 2-4 minute conversion" > > > > I recently did the same thing you are attempting to do with your BE, > to my > > > BF machine. However, I could not find the actual BF conversion kit and > > > adapted a BE conversion kit to work. The main difference between the two > is > > > the length of the feedscrew. The BE is approx. 8" long and the BF is > approx. > > > 10" long - the adaptation would not have worked in reverse - a BF kit > will > > > not work on a BE. > > > > No one seemed to know much about Columbia 2/4 conversions when I was > > > researching mine earlier this year, so I have learned quite a bit about > > > them. First, if you find a kit, it has to include a feedscrew with the > > > gearing attached and an adapter plate with a locking post for the > conversion > > > to work. Make sure all the parts are there before purchasing one, > because > > > they are a needle in a haystack to find. The pics of my machine with the > BE > > > adapter on it are on the above website. > > > > Although, Columbia made the adapter kits to be used with a number of > > > machines, they apparently did not make many of them because the cost for > the > > > adapter was almost as much as the original machine and Columbia did not > make > > > 4 minute cylinders (other than the Indestructible brand). It was also at > the > > > end of the cylinder age, when most people were starting to opt for disc > > > records. > > > > Curt > > > > > > > > > Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 11:32:56 -0700 > > > > > From: onatorr...@yahoo.com > > > > > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > > > > > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Fwd: Looking for info or a 2/4 minute > attachmet. > > > > > > > > > > David, > > > > > I went back and check with the Columbia Phonograph Companion Vol. 1, > and > > > you are very right. There was more than one attachmemt made to work. on > > > different machines. > > > > > Oops, Thank you for correcting me. I should have double checked my > > > facts before talking out of foggy memory and scatchy mental pictues. > Still > > > I would love to find a BE 2/4 minute attachment. I wander if the other > > > attachment for the BK might work on my Columbia Oxford, it was based on > the > > > BK but my Oxford Machinehad has the bedplate and gearing all look to be > > > identical to the BK. The Oxford case is plain with trim around bedplate > and > > > base of machine. It is correct to be without decals of any kind other > than > > > the double pinsripe on the Japaned black lacker bedplate. Information > > > passed on to me by Tim Fabrizio about the interesting fact that they did > not > > > decal the case at all, just plane oak. The tone arm conmected to the > horn > > > support is painted glossy black to match the backmount and bedplate, the > > > elbow connecting to the reproducer and the slide tube are nickeled. The > > > slide tube just turns under and connects to the elbow unlike the BKT > > > > > that has a "U" Tube at the end of the slide. I have a really nice > > > larger Columbia Black Petals Horn with raised accents aound each petal > and > > > there this is a double yellow rose decal on each of the petals too. I > > > really like the way it looks with the black parts of the machine. > > > > > > > > > > I will attach a photo with this posting so you can see the machine. > I > > > am quite proud of it as I am sure you can tell. But not as proud as my > > > mahogany Triumph and Home model A long case. > > > > > Any ways David, I would like to say thanks for correcting me, I > have > > > learned many things from the post that have been made here. > > > > > Kenneth Keeton > > > > > > > > > > PS:The Picture of my Oxford Cylinder Phonograph is as an Attachment > > > within this post. > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > From: "drbor...@aol.com" <drbor...@aol.com> > > > > > To: onatorr...@yahoo.com > > > > > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 9:59 PM > > > > > Subject: Fwd: [Phono-L] Looking for info or a 2/4 minute attachmet. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ken, > > > > > > > > > > I believe the 2/4 minute attachment for a BE, BF, and BG is > different > > > than used on the BK, BO and BQ. I think I have a complete 2/4 minute > > > attachment for the later, but I think it is different than what you > need. > > > If you are interested in the attachment for a BK, BO, or BQ, let me know > and > > > I'll locate it and send some pictures. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > David Boruff > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Ken aka: OnATorrent <onatorr...@yahoo.com> > > > > > To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l@oldcrank.org> > > > > > Sent: Mon, Jul 23, 2012 9:34 am > > > > > Subject: [Phono-L] Looking for info or a 2/4 minute attachmet. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello all, > > > > > > > > > > I posted a message several days ago and saw no replys. I have a > > > Columbia BE in > > > > > fantastic condition and I would really love to find a 2/4 minute > > > attachment for > > > > > it. It is the same attachment that fits the BK, BF, BG, BO and the > BQ. > > > If > > > > > anyone has a complete attachment for sale I would really love to > know > > > and if you > > > > > have any leads to where I can find one, it would be most helpful. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks much as alwasy, > > > > > Kenneth Keeton > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Phono-L mailing list > > > > > http://phono-l.org/ > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > > > > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > > > > > Name: Oxford Cylinder Phonograph - 2 crop.jpg > > > > > Type: image/jpeg > > > > > Size: 1343378 bytes > > > > > Desc: not available > > > > > URL: > > > > <http://oldcrank.org/pipermail/phono-l/attachments/20120724/71d04ee3/attachm > > > ent.jpg> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Phono-L mailing list > > > > > http://phono-l.org/ > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Phono-L mailing list > > > > http://phono-l.org/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Phono-L mailing list > > > > http://phono-l.org/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Phono-L mailing list > > > http://phono-l.org/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Phono-L mailing list > > > http://phono-l.org/ > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Phono-L mailing list > > > http://phono-l.org/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Phono-L mailing list > > http://phono-l.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org/ > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org/ > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
