Hi Steve: My notes differ from the numbers you had. I have Standard S#51888 as having clips but by S#52180 shipped without them but having the set screw.
I have often said that Edison machines were assembled but not on a perfectly inline assembly line. Early parts at the bottom of a parts bin often ended up on later machines, within reason. It would not surprise me that newer screw securing carriage arms were put on top of earlier clip arms and those clip arms were put on later when the bottom of the bin was reached. Steve, since you are THE Edison Reproducer expert, how do you explain that Edison kept making Reproducers with the adjusting arms long after all the machines had alignment pins and the securing screws? I cannot imagine a scenario that results in adjusting arm equipped Reproducers being produced with high serial numbers so much later than the clips were phased out. How I would love to have research privileges at the Site... Oh well, these esoteric questions may be answered by some future scholar. Regards, Al -----Original Message----- From: Steven Medved <steve_nor...@msn.com> To: phono-l <phono-l@oldcrank.org> Sent: Thu, Aug 30, 2012 5:40 pm Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Gem Model E Hello Al, Welcome back. I hope you enjoyed yourself. I have often wondered when the Edison phonograph carriages went from clips to the set screw. George Paul tells me Standard 52182 that has the clips and 53411 that has the screw left the factory in April 1902. He has data that tells when machines left the factory. I guess the set screw came out in October 1901 as the early B got the notch in the 17,000 range and the Model C appeared around 25,000, but this is only a guess based on the Frow book saying the standard got the push pull lift know in October 1901 when it did not get it until around Standard S108,000 which would have been way into 1902. It is my idea he got the push pull lift know and the set screw mixed up. I have learned it is very hard to pin Edison products down with dates. Best regards, Steve Steve, Both No.52182 and No.53411 left the factory about April 1902. Makes sense, doesn't it? Best,George > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > From: clockworkh...@aol.com > Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 01:59:49 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Gem Model E > > > Hi Steve: > The highest number Model N Reproducer in a Gem E that I know of is 67830. It is a domed one with the large N on the fishtail weight. > Hope that helps... > Al > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
