And then post it somewhere we all can see.

Ron L'Herault wrote:
I don't want to own one but I'd dearly love a pic or three for my
presentation.

e-mail to lherault at bu dot edu

Ron L

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Ken Danckaert
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 8:35 AM
To: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] trolling motors from phono motors

I have one of these that I'm willing to sell.  It is in a nice homemade box
with latches.  It is stamped on the inside with "BUILD FOR CLARENCE BLACK
BYE ABELL".  The label is on the deck and says "RCA Victor Model 012
Portable Phonograph".  If anyone is interested, contact me off list at
[email protected]>

Ken Danckaert

On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 11:20 PM, Vinyl Visions
<[email protected]>wrote:

Thanks, Ron for the explanation...

Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 12:57:02 -0700
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] trolling motors from phono motors

I think that makes sense. I live on the St Clair River which flows
out
of Lake
Huron and into Lake St Clair.  The Detroit River flows out of Lake St.
Clair.
I can't believe with how popular those were in the older days that I
still can
find an intact Victrola around here!
Dave




________________________________
From: Ron L'Herault<[email protected]>
To: Antique Phonograph List<[email protected]>
Sent: Mon, October 29, 2012 2:53:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] trolling motors from phono motors

Here's what one website said:

Basically, handlining involves using lead weights and wire line too
heavy to
use with conventional fishing tackle to get lures down in conditions
where
water flow and radically varying depths conspire to frustrate common
slow-trolling techniques. It's a tactic pioneered by self proclaimed
"river
rats" fishing for walleyes forced by the current to hug the bottom
as
they
migrate through the Detroit River each spring. Early anglers
actually pirated parts from vintage, hand-cranked Victorola
phonograph players to construct reels capable of handling the wire
line and the weights the slow-trolling technique required.

The "trolling motor" has nothing to do with powering a boat, as I
thought it
did at first.  It is just a way to reel in/out a heavy line and weights.
They mounted them off the sides of the boat and for al I know,
probably
were
propelling the boat with oars.

Ron L

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]]
On
Behalf Of Vinyl Visions
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 12:09 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] trolling motors from phono motors


Can you guys explain what, exactly, is the purpose or advantage of
using
one
of these contraptions? When I go trolling, I use a boat with a motor
and
rod
&  reel... I can't see how you would use these. I never realized that
a phonograph could be used as fishing gear - is this just a
cumbersome
version
of a modern reel?

Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 08:39:01 -0700
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] trolling motors from phono motors

Hi Ron,
I have never found one with an intact governor.  I think it would
rotate too slowly with it still attached.  Without it, the angler
can control the speed by allowing the line to slip through the
fingers faster or slower.  When i get some time I will send you a
photo.  I
have a
couple that I have not torn apart yet.
Dave




________________________________
From: Ron L'Herault<[email protected]>
To: Antique Phonograph List<[email protected]>
Sent: Mon, October 29, 2012 10:50:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] trolling motors from phono motors

I believe that removing the governors is part of what makes them
work well, although a couple of pictures I've seen show governors
in the motors.  I suppose it is possible that they are there but
not engaged in the gear train too.

Can you send a picture of one you have?

Thanks,

Ron L

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Dazer
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 5:50 AM
To: Antique Phonograph List
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] trolling motors from phono motors

I pick them up around here for around $20.  The governors are
always gone, but the springs and gears come in handy Dave Dazer




________________________________
From: Ron L'Herault<[email protected]>
To: Antique Phonograph List<[email protected]>;
[email protected]
Sent: Sun, October 28, 2012 9:20:48 PM
Subject: [Phono-L] trolling motors from phono motors

I'm looking for information about the practice of turning a spring
wound phono motor into a trolling motor/line winder.  Ever see on,
build one, use one?  Got pictures?

Thanks,

Ron L

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