Regarding the turntable liberation, I've found that the product PB Blaster works much more effectively than Liquid Wrench or WD40. Any will stain the felt but might be cleaned with a solvent afterward.
A soak over night can work wonders, and then the turntable should be leveraged upward by placing the fingers of each hand under the rim at 9 and 3 o'clock and exerting upward force. Based on the rust I see in the photos, this still might need more help, so WHILE exerting a firm and steady upward force with both hands (good thing there's two of you), give the top of the spindle a sharp tap with a hammer. It may take a few tries, but be sure that the penetrating oil has had a chance to do its job, and it's best to use a hard plastic mallet to avoid deforming the spindle top, or taking other precautions. Wedges can also be used in lieu of fingers, if applied simultaneously and exactly opposite each other -- beware that you can bend the spindle if you're not careful, even if using only your hands. Good luck. Andrew Baron Santa Fe On Aug 29, 2013, at 4:40 PM, Melissa Ricci wrote: > Hi Harvey, > > Thanks for your insight! Nick is trying to get the turntable off as we speak > to check for those extra holes. It is rusted on tight and it has been a long > day today so we may wait til the weekend to actually get it off. He says he > can see under the turntable and that there do not appear to be any extra > holes just the three screws holding the motor on. > > Thanks again, > Melissa > > > ________________________________ > From: harvey kravitz <harveykrav...@yahoo.com> > To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l@oldcrank.org> > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 6:12 PM > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Mystery Phono! Vic 3 or Frankenphone? > > > From what I can see the parts are from a later Victor III. The cabinet looks > old and original, but not to a Victor III. Did you take off the turn table to > see if there were multiple holes in the motor board? If so, that would mean a > swapped motor. If not, the cabinet can be new old stock that was modified by > the original owner, a dealer, or a handyman. If there are no extra holes in > the cabinet, I would strip and refinish it. It would be a very unique machine. > Harvey Kravitz > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Melissa Ricci <riccib...@yahoo.com> > To: Phono-l <phono-l@oldcrank.org>; "phonol...@yahoogroups.com" > <phonol...@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 2:34 PM > Subject: [Phono-L] Mystery Phono! Vic 3 or Frankenphone? > > > Hello Everyone, > > Last night, Nick an I won an interesting phonograph at a local junk auction. > Someone has spray painted the entire cabinet gold...inside and out! The > double spring motor looks to be from a Victor III, the turntable and the > upper works appear to be from a Victor III and it came with a ID plate > (tacked inside the cabinet) that indicates it is indeed a Victor III. It also > came with a nice original wood horn. > > The problem is, we have never seen a Victor cabinet with this design before. > After quite a bit of research, we found that the Vic III came in two cabinet > types and neither of them match this one, not even close! We own a late style > Victor III to compare it to and it is definitely not the same. Strange. The > wood under the terrible gold paint looks old and the back bracket looks to be > correct. So we need to find out, is this a Frankenphone made up of Victor III > parts with a handmade cabinet or a cabinet from a different machine? I was > unable to find any cabinets with the kind of moldings this one has. Here are > a few links to pictures we just took. > > Any ideas are greatly appreciated! > > http://s81.photobucket.com/user/musicalpets/media/Mystery%20Phono/DSC09701.jpg.html > > > http://s81.photobucket.com/user/musicalpets/media/Mystery%20Phono/DSC09702.jpg.html > > > http://s81.photobucket.com/user/musicalpets/media/Mystery%20Phono/DSC09703.jpg.html > > > http://s81.photobucket.com/user/musicalpets/media/Mystery%20Phono/DSC09704.jpg.html > > > http://s81.photobucket.com/user/musicalpets/media/Mystery%20Phono/DSC09705.jpg.html > > > http://s81.photobucket.com/user/musicalpets/media/Mystery%20Phono/DSC09706.jpg.html > > > Thanks, > Melissa > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org > _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
