Once you manage to get it off, you should wire brush the spindle and polish it if you have the equipment. The turntable hole can be cleaned with sandpaper rolled around a dowel, pencil, bolt or any long round object that will fit in there - a drill bit with sandpaper wrapped around it works too. As for the cabinet, it does look old, but the columns are not Victor type. So, depending on how much you paid for this, it might turn out well.
> Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 16:56:36 -0700 > From: riccib...@yahoo.com > To: phono-l@oldcrank.org > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Mystery Phono! Vic 3 or Frankenphone? > > > > Hi Andrew, > Thank you for the advice! We have been in this position before with a Victor > II turntable that was just terrible to remove! What a chore! We managed to > get it off with our hands and the hammer trick but we felt the liquide wrench > did very little to help even after soaking overnight twice. I am excited to > try the product you suggest so maybe this time will be better. Thanks so much! > Melissa > > > ------------------------------ > On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 7:13 PM EDT Andrew Baron wrote: > > >Regarding the turntable liberation, I've found that the product PB Blaster > >works much more effectively than Liquid Wrench or WD40. Any will stain the > >felt but might be cleaned with a solvent afterward. > > > >A soak over night can work wonders, and then the turntable should be > >leveraged upward by placing the fingers of each hand under the rim at 9 and > >3 o'clock and exerting upward force. Based on the rust I see in the photos, > >this still might need more help, so WHILE exerting a firm and steady upward > >force with both hands (good thing there's two of you), give the top of the > >spindle a sharp tap with a hammer. It may take a few tries, but be sure > >that the penetrating oil has had a chance to do its job, and it's best to > >use a hard plastic mallet to avoid deforming the spindle top, or taking > >other precautions. > > > >Wedges can also be used in lieu of fingers, if applied simultaneously and > >exactly opposite each other -- beware that you can bend the spindle if > >you're not careful, even if using only your hands. > > > >Good luck. > > > >Andrew Baron > >Santa Fe > > > >On Aug 29, 2013, at 4:40 PM, Melissa Ricci wrote: > > > >> Hi Harvey, > >> > >> Thanks for your insight! Nick is trying to get the turntable off as we > >> speak to check for those extra holes. It is rusted on tight and it has > >> been a long day today so we may wait til the weekend to actually get it > >> off. He says he can see under the turntable and that there do not appear > >> to be any extra holes just the three screws holding the motor on. > >> > >> Thanks again, > >> Melissa > >> > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> From: harvey kravitz <harveykrav...@yahoo.com> > >> To: Antique Phonograph List <phono-l@oldcrank.org> > >> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 6:12 PM > >> Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Mystery Phono! Vic 3 or Frankenphone? > >> > >> > >> From what I can see the parts are from a later Victor III. The cabinet > >> looks old and original, but not to a Victor III. Did you take off the turn > >> table to see if there were multiple holes in the motor board? If so, that > >> would mean a swapped motor. If not, the cabinet can be new old stock that > >> was modified by the original owner, a dealer, or a handyman. If there are > >> no extra holes in the cabinet, I would strip and refinish it. It would be > >> a very unique machine. > >> Harvey Kravitz > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> From: Melissa Ricci <riccib...@yahoo.com> > >> To: Phono-l <phono-l@oldcrank.org>; "phonol...@yahoogroups.com" > >> <phonol...@yahoogroups.com> > >> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 2:34 PM > >> Subject: [Phono-L] Mystery Phono! Vic 3 or Frankenphone? > >> > >> > >> Hello Everyone, > >> > >> Last night, Nick an I won an interesting phonograph at a local junk > >> auction. Someone has spray painted the entire cabinet gold...inside and > >> out! The double spring motor looks to be from a Victor III, the turntable > >> and the upper works appear to be from a Victor III and it came with a ID > >> plate (tacked inside the cabinet) that indicates it is indeed a Victor > >> III. It also came with a nice original wood horn. > >> > >> The problem is, we have never seen a Victor cabinet with this design > >> before. After quite a bit of research, we found that the Vic III came in > >> two cabinet types and neither of them match this one, not even close! We > >> own a late style Victor III to compare it to and it is definitely not the > >> same. Strange. The wood under the terrible gold paint looks old and the > >> back bracket looks to be correct. So we need to find out, is this a > >> Frankenphone made up of Victor III parts with a handmade cabinet or a > >> cabinet from a different machine? I was unable to find any cabinets with > >> the kind of moldings this one has. Here are a few links to pictures we > >> just took. > >> > >> Any ideas are greatly appreciated! > >> > >> http://s81.photobucket.com/user/musicalpets/media/Mystery%20Phono/DSC09701.jpg.html > >> > >> > >> http://s81.photobucket.com/user/musicalpets/media/Mystery%20Phono/DSC09702.jpg.html > >> > >> > >> http://s81.photobucket.com/user/musicalpets/media/Mystery%20Phono/DSC09703.jpg.html > >> > >> > >> http://s81.photobucket.com/user/musicalpets/media/Mystery%20Phono/DSC09704.jpg.html > >> > >> > >> http://s81.photobucket.com/user/musicalpets/media/Mystery%20Phono/DSC09705.jpg.html > >> > >> > >> http://s81.photobucket.com/user/musicalpets/media/Mystery%20Phono/DSC09706.jpg.html > >> > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Melissa > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Phono-L mailing list > >> http://phono-l.org > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Phono-L mailing list > >> http://phono-l.org > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Phono-L mailing list > >> http://phono-l.org > >> > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Phono-L mailing list > >http://phono-l.org > > _______________________________________________ > Phono-L mailing list > http://phono-l.org _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
