"Frank M. Kromann" wrote:
> 
> Is there a list of modules that stays ?

One of the things I've noticed on this topic is that a few
folks tend to think that their particular technology should
be used everywhere, and therefore, it should always be
installed on machines. Of course, this is how we got into
this convoluted situation in the first place... sure,
"XYZ functions" may be touted as a future standard for all
machines, someday, but quite frankly, many of such "standards"
aren't even close to widespread use and deployment.

In response to Zeev's point that we don't even know if/how PEAR
will work, yes, I think this discussion isn't about enforcing the
future. I'd say it's more about finding some better direction.

A proposed list where it "cuts close to the bone":
(since nobody seems to want to be the 'bad guy', I'll start...)

M= Main
P= Pear
(To show/expose any personal bias, items marked with a "*" are ones that
I use on most servers.)

apache M *
aspell P *
bcmath P *
bz2 P
calendar P
ccvs P
com P
cpdf P
crack P *
ctype P
curl P
cybercash P
cybermut P
db P
dba P
dbase P
domxml P
dotnet P
exif P
fdf P
filepro P
fribidi P
ftp M *
gd P *
gettext P
gmp P
hyperwave P
icap P
iconv P
iisfunc M
imap M *
informix P
ingres_ii P
interbase P
ircg P
java P
ldap M *
mcal P
mcrypt P *
mhash P *
midgard P
ming P
mnogosearch P
msql P
mssql M
muscat P
mysql M *
notes P 
oci8 P *
odbc P 
openssl P
oracle P
ovrimos P
pcre P
pdf P
pfpro P
pgsql M *
posix P
printer P
pspell M *
qtdom P
readline P
recode P
sablot P
satellite P
session M 
shmop M *
snmp P *
sockets M *
standard M * (duh. :-) )
swf P
sybase P
sybase_ct P
sysvsem M *
sysvshm M *
vpopmail P
wddx P
xml P
yaz P
yp P
zlib P
zziplib P

Which would mean that the main distro would have:
apache
ftp
iisfunc
imap
ldap
mssql
mysql
pgsql
pspell
session
shmop
sockets
standard
sysvsem
sysvshm

This keeps the core system functions, basic database
services for the most widely used DB's, and the basic
data exchange services (IMAP, ftp, ldap, etc.)

Another way of looking at it would to leave almost everything
in some use, and only take out the ones which seem to be for
special purposes and work environments, such as an XML environment
pieces, or midgard, or hyperwave....
ccvs P
com P
cpdf P
curl P
cybercash P
cybermut P
domxml P
dotnet P
exif P
fdf P
fribidi P
gettext P
hyperwave P
icap P
iconv P
ircg P
mcal P
midgard P
notes P 
openssl P
pcre P
pdf P
pfpro P
qtdom P
readline P
recode P
sablot P
vpopmail P
wddx P
xml P
yaz P
yp P
zziplib P

And, adding to the pear discussion, working with blocks of
these would undoubtedly be easier. So if you wanted to
get the XML package, it would grab xml, domxml, etc...

-Ronabop

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