I think the main point is that Paul is an unpleasant person to work with. Demonstrably, some members want him out. The community has already lost a few contributors because of him, and the group is now calling for a vote to check if *most* members want him out, or if *just a few* do.
It's alright to start this discussion, IMO, even if he's done nothing *technically* wrong. Like some people said, he hasn't *technically* attacked anyone specifically, but people are just fed up with his attitude. Also, note that if the members *feel* like he's being detrimental to its ability to contribute, he can be expelled according to the bylaws. We're all humans here, not computers, so we can detect the intended effect of some sentences, even if it's not explicit in said sentence. There is no need for names to be called for us to detect aggresive behavior. It's not like we have a blacklist of words that cannot be said and if we manage to take these words out of our vocabulary, then anything we say is ok. It's not. Summing up, even if he's managed to get plausible deniability by avoiding slurs and name-calling, it is possible for someone to find his behavior aggressive, and IMO, that should be discussed. @geggleto, I saw nothing offensive in this thread. Larry, who spoke for Paul's expulsion, was incredibly polite and even called Paul a very intelligent person (which is undeniable). His argument is based entirely on Paul's behavior within this list, not on his personal beliefs or even on him, as a person. Em sexta-feira, 24 de junho de 2016 09:31:22 UTC-3, Adam Culp escreveu: > > Brad, > > I see nothing in that thread that would prompt me to think that was a > negative experience. The conversation was very well thought out and helpful. > > > On Friday, June 24, 2016 at 5:02:40 AM UTC-4, Brad Ito wrote: >> >> Speaking towards open source leaders needing to foster community, I had a >> pretty negative experience myself with Paul M Jones: >> >> >> https://www.reddit.com/r/PHP/comments/2eh7c7/squirt_php_dependency_injection_with_parameter/ >> >> I had an idea on something I'd found useful, wrote up a library, and was >> mocked pretty hard by him. Seeing that he was part of the establishment >> (FIG), I figured he spoke for the community. It was really not fun to be >> immediately confronted with a condescending debate, when I just wanted to >> build something interesting and useful. Have since found folks more >> welcoming in the React.js community.... >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "PHP Framework Interoperability Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to php-fig+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to php-fig@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/php-fig/eb7f1400-a6ef-4cd1-a695-958eaa3099a5%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
