On Sunday, June 26, 2016 at 11:30:55 AM UTC+3, Alessandro Pellizzari wrote: > > On Sat, 25 Jun 2016 07:59:16 -0700 (PDT) > "'Alexander Makarov' via PHP Framework Interoperability Group" > <php...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>> wrote: > > > Mailing list has many issues: > > > > 1. Really hard to read conversations since everything is cited and > > different mail clients are doing it differently. > > We just need to decide and impose a quoting style, and Netiquette > already suggests one. > > > 2. Everything is a big sticky pile of mud. In a forum we'll be able > > to have separate categories for separate proposals so it will be > > **much** easier to focus. > > That's what threads are for, and threading capabilities in email > clients have been there for decades. >
Same as forum topics, yes... But how to group all the threads on PSR-7? That's what subforums are for. It's way better than a current mess. > > > 3. No permissions management. In a forum we'll be able to have a > > "voting members" group with which has permission to post to voting > > threads. > > We can have a separate mailing list for votes. Or, better, a website. > Actually yes. I have a free evening soon so I'm going to implement website version of it. If it would be adopted — great. If not, it's fun. > > > 4. Hard to browse history. In a forum it's all structured so > > it's much easier. No need to dig much. > > Again. Threading helps a lot, and many email clients have grouping > capabilities (static and dynamic), search, tagging. > In a forum, you are limited by what the forum software gives you. > > > These are only the surface, I'm sure other members have their own > > concerns about mailing lists. > > In contrast, forums: > > 1. Make it harder to know which articles are new in a > discussion. Nope. Every good forum software marks these. Also there's usually a capability to "Get what's new since my last visit". > > > 2. Makes it harder to understand to which message a reply > refers to. Same as MLs. I found myself lost about it multiple times. > > > 3. Makes it harder and slower to go from one thread to another. > Why? > > 4. Makes it much slower to read sequentially. Nope. You have all the posts on topic in a single list. Why is it hard to read sequentially? If you mean globally, why reading sequentially if messages are about different topics? > > > 5. Makes it impossible to mark a thread as read when you are not > interested. > Wrong. Every forum software has that capability. > > 6. Makes it harder to archive, star, mark, blacklist a message or a > thread > Most forums have it. > > 7. Makes it hard or impossible to take a part of a discussion in > private without needing to copy-paste it. > There's "PM with quote" button in most of the forums. > > And probably much more. > > My suggestion: if you are not happy with your client software, change > your client software, don't try to force everybody else to change > theirs. > I'm not forcing anyone, just suggesting. Also, note that I've suggested forum software with ML support. > > Bye. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "PHP Framework Interoperability Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to php-fig+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to php-fig@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/php-fig/3f0f0f1d-0c85-4d3c-9dc6-767260090d1f%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
