php-general Digest 7 Jan 2013 18:16:55 -0000 Issue 8090
Topics (messages 320050 through 320053):
Re: Pear Page2
320050 by: Silvio Siefke
320051 by: Tedd Sperling
320052 by: Stuart Dallas
Re: variable placeholders in a text file
320053 by: Nelson Green
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Hello,
On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 11:36:39 -0500
Tedd Sperling <t...@sperling.com> wrote:
> You said --
>
> > 1.) All websites are created manually. (nano + html/css Tags)
>
> -- and I replied "Not mine". In other words, some of my web-sites are
> NOT created manually.
What do you mean I do realize. I'm just wondering, why write an email
to the matter is insignificant.
> They are dynamically generated from user input.
When you have this situation be happy. Other site, other content, and
other target groups.
> I don't use nano (I don't even know what that is), but what I do is
> to create pages that pass W3C compliance and follow "best" practices.
> From what I've gathered from most frameworks I've reviewed, they have
> problems (similar to ASP) in mixing different languages in ways such
> that compliance with W3C and accessibility issues are difficult, if
> not impossible, to achieve.
Nano is a editor, very simple editor for Linux. http://www.nano-editor.org
Which website is the w3c compliant? No website that has many users and has
a lot of interaction.
> Even CMS's have difficulty with compliance and accessibility issues
> because of the lack of knowledge of the user/client. I have clients
> who insist on CMS's, but then are clueless as to user issues and
> difficulties..
Correct.
> So, where does that leave a "Web Developer?" It leaves them with the
> responsibility to learn and apply what they learned to their craft.
> Is there an easy way out, such as to use a certain framework, or CMS,
> or other such attempts at minimizing the work involved? The answer is
> a simple "No".
I simply asked a question, nothing more, nothing less. I looked for an
alternative. I do not need a web developer. I'm not a web developer.
I manage a few sites, most of my Customers are hosting customers.
> Instead, you have to spend every waking hour learning and applying that
> knowledge with openness to the possibility that you still don't understand
> the problems involved it's a never ending battle to educate yourself.
I have not asked about the internationalization of web pages, I ask for an
alternative a Pear package. As I have also written the websites are manually
created and activated for years.I want to try out just a little and learn if
you do not understand that the problem is not with me. Internationalization
between large and small sites is the difference. The websites that I manage
only a different date. For this need not study. That goes with nano and a
good Database Sheet. Learning will never stop. The only thing that changes
is the speed. As a child we hjaben knowledge absorbed, today I sweep only.
Thank you for help, Kind Regards
Silvio
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On Jan 6, 2013, at 12:52 PM, Silvio Siefke <siefke_lis...@web.de> wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 11:36:39 -0500
> Tedd Sperling <t...@sperling.com> wrote:
>> So, where does that leave a "Web Developer?" It leaves them with the
>> responsibility to learn and apply what they learned to their craft.
>> Is there an easy way out, such as to use a certain framework, or CMS,
>> or other such attempts at minimizing the work involved? The answer is
>> a simple "No".
>
> I simply asked a question, nothing more, nothing less. I looked for an
> alternative. I do not need a web developer. I'm not a web developer.
> I manage a few sites, most of my Customers are hosting customers.
No offense meant, but therein lies the problem. Two fold:
1. You asked a question without the intent to learn and practice.
2. By your own admission, you are not a web developer and as such you cannot
use our advice.
This is similar to me asking about brain-surgery -- I don't know much about it,
but I would be very reluctant to operate.
You also said:
> I'm just wondering, why write an email to the matter is insignificant.
On that point, I must agree -- I probably should not have answered. I should
have seen you were having difficulties understanding what was being offered and
passed on my contribution -- my apologies.
I also realize there is a language problem here -- while I cannot speak your
language, what you say in mine and my replies, may be misinterpreted -- but in
any case, no offense was meant.
I wish you well.
Cheers,
tedd
_____________________
t...@sperling.com
http://sperling.com
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On 6 Jan 2013, at 18:42, Tedd Sperling <t...@sperling.com> wrote:
> I also realize there is a language problem here -- while I cannot speak your
> language, what you say in mine and my replies, may be misinterpreted -- but
> in any case, no offense was meant.
Indeed. I'm guessing that when Silvio said "All websites are created manually.
(nano + html/css Tags)" he meant "All of the websites are created manually.
(nano + html/css Tags)" meaning the sites he's working on rather than every
site in existence.
-Stuart
--
Stuart Dallas
3ft9 Ltd
http://3ft9.com/
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On Sat, 5 Jan 2013 04:20:09 -0600, Kevin Kinsey wrote:
> Nelson (et al),
>
> I've enjoyed reading this thread and apologize for dredging it up.
> It's interesting to see your progression of thought and the templating
> discussion is indeed a worthy one.
>
> However, I wanted to answer this objection from your initial message:
>
> >The reason I ask is because I am going to want to do three substitutions,
> >and I'd rather not do three str_replace calls if I don't have to.
>
> You *don't* have to; str_replace() is perfectly capable of handling
> arrays:
>
> =====
> $replace = array("USER","SITENAME","SOME_CONSTANT");
> $replacements = array($user,$site_name,$foo);
>
> $replaced =
> str_replace($replace,$replacements,file_get_contents("/somefile.txt"));
> =====
>
> This, of course, doesn't negate a good templating system* ... but it's
> handy to know and you'll probably use it sooner or later.
>
> Kevin Kinsey
>
> P.S. *assuming that's not an oxymoron!
Kevin,
No apologies necessary, at least not to me. I always appreciate help and
I probably wouldn't have figured out your way on my own, at least not in
relation to what I am trying to do. And you've just proved once again that
there is almost always more than one way to accomplish a goal. I like this
solution as much as what I ended up with and will keep it handy.
Thanks!
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