hehehe.. im actually looking forward to reading responses on this
thread.. 

funny stuff. 

Jason

Jason Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> On Friday 17 September 2004 23:21, Sam Hobbs wrote:
> 
> > Again, it is okay to say this once but it is not useful to keep insisting.
> > I am smart enough to be aware of the possibility and if and when other
> > possibilities have been exahausted I would have tried the possibility of
> > disabling the firewall or whatever. Insisting upon it from others is not
> > productive; it is more likley to polarize me in the opposite direction and
> > get us to where we are now. It is the emotional commentary that is most
> > unproductive. I try to explain (unemotionally and in a reasonable manner)
> > that I don't need the additional assertion that I must try something and
> > the response to that becomes emotional.
> 
> Being obstinate and contrarian does nothing to help resolve your problem. Time 
> for another:
> 
> [quote from a Sam Hobbs post in reply to Jason Davidson]
> > It is my understanding that the firewall is not supposed to be relevant. I
> > have not seen anything saying it is supposed to be. If it is true that it
> > is not supposed to be relevant, then simply saying it is just causes
> > confusion. If you had said that the firewall is not supposed to be
> > relevant, but try disabling it anyway, then I would say that I am totally
> > able to think like that too. It is reasonable to try things like that to
> > diagnose a bug.
> [quote]
> 
> Would I be correct if I paraphrased the above as:
> 
> The wrong way to get Sam Hobbs to try something that might help in solving his 
> problem:
> 
> [JD] The firewall might be blocking your attempts to connect to mysql. Try 
> disabling it.
> [SH] Yeah and what makes you think that? I KNOW the firewal has nothing to do 
> with it. Get real (and go away).
> 
> The right way to get Sam Hobbs to try something that might help in solving his 
> problem:
> 
> [JD] The firewall has nothing to do with your problem. But try disabling it 
> anyway.
> [SH] Yeah that sounds reasonable. Thanks, I'll try that.
> 
> 
> 
> How silly is that?
> 
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