Nathan Rixham wrote:
> Shawn McKenzie wrote:
>> Ryan A wrote:
>>> Add my vote too for Smarty....
>>> HTH,
>>> -R
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>> I like smarty and it's very powerful, however what you find is that it's
>> just a less capable replacement for PHP. If I want conditional
>> statements to display HTML and/or loop through arrays, why would I want
>> to do it in smarty tags? Instead of moving display away from logic, it
>> just replaces the logic with a different language. When I use templates
>> I pretty much want variable substitution. My next project I'll probably
>> use HTML files with little bits of PHP echos etc... sprinkled throughout.
>>
>> -Shawn
>
> re: If I want conditional statements to display HTML and/or loop through
> arrays, why would I want to do it in smarty tags?
>
> Things are very different when there are a team of varyingly skilled
> people on the job, do you really want a junior designer going in and
> changing bits of a php application, when you could limit the damage to a
> smarty template?
>
> further; the font end smarty language is definately needed; concider
>
> {if $articles}
> {*loop through articles and show in table *}
> {else}
> {* show no articles message *}
> {/if}
>
> in my opinion, being able to dump that kind of ultra simple logic onto
> the designers makes:
> 1: my life much easier
> 2: my php files much neater
> 3: my code my "own domain" without worrying about random comments and
> breakages from designers
> 4: the designers happier as they have more freedom and power to control
> the display, without having to worry
>
> final note:
> personally I output every script to a suitably named .tpl file with a
> single line {debug} - job done
I understand, but my point that I didn't make earlier is that I know PHP
so I use that. Designers that I work with don't know PHP and don't know
smarty and have no desire to know. They know graphic design and HTML.
So I would rather give them some meaningful tags to insert somewhere in
their HTML. Actually moving the logic out of the presentation/design.
So instead of article.tpl:
{if $articles}
{*loop through articles and show in table *}
{else}
{* show no articles message *}
{/if}
I prefer to do this in my article.php:
if($articles) {
include('article.html');
//or optionally file_get_contents() and do replace on tags
}else{
return;
}
And let the designer have his article.html:
<table>
<tr>
<td><?php echo $something; ?></td>
<!-- or {something} that is replaced with echo $something; -->
</tr>
</table>
-Shawn
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