Greg Donald wrote:
On 3/12/08, Ray Hauge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
You
 come to a PHP mailing list to proclaim that RoR is better?

No dumbass, I have already been here for a long time:

This is my last post on this thread. It's obvious nobody is going to convince anyone else of their being right or wrong. The issue people are having is your attitude from about reply #2 from you on this thread. I just wanted to make that point clear. Trolling and being antagonistic doesn't get you anywhere.

The point of this reply is I didn't say anything about how long you've been around here. The fact is you're still here, and we're talking PHP.

I will give you that you weren't the first to submit an opinion of Ruby being the best or the worst. Your first reply was simply open minded, but then you got your feathers all ruffled when someone said they didn't like Ruby, albeit in a somewhat negative connotation.

>> It's people like you that turn a lot of people off to Ruby.

>I choose to use a language for a while before forming an opinion.  I
>certainly wouldn't let someone's opinion sway my own inquisitive
>nature to have a go at it myself.

The reason it turns people off is you have to work with the community as well as the language. If you want the project to get better, you need to be able to work with the community. I will admit that the PHP Internals list can get pretty heated as well, but those arguments are usually based on technical opinions and not religious fervor for the language*.

* Note: I haven't read a whole lot on the Internals list, but based on summaries by PHP|Architect and other sources I have assumed my conclusion.

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Ray Hauge
www.primateapplications.com

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