You clearly think you're right, which is your right, but I'm not
sensing any openness to alternative points of view so this will be my
last comment on this pointless conversation. It's just not fun anymore.
On 22 May 2008, at 15:10, Michelle Konzack wrote:
Am 2008-05-21 19:17:09, schrieb Stut:
Violation of privacy? Let's start with the fact that it's not
collecting anything you don't put out there when you use your
browser.
Let's add that none of that info can personally identify you without
consulting your ISP who are highly unlikely to disclose who you are
without a court order.
Not realy right, because the Music-Industry try to enforce a
International Law which they permit to contact directly the
ISP's for informations about customers...
"try". Yup, that's right *you* said try. They need a court order to
get that information (which is what I said) and they always will. If
they can show that they have reasonable cause to believe someone has
broken the law then a court order will be forthcoming. I don't have a
problem with that, and if you have nothing to hide neither should you.
[IMHO]
So, this law can be misused in any case...
And as I have already sayed, if they get ONE time infos about
me, I am tracable worldwide with my Laptop which let me run
into heavy trouble.
I can't really reach any conclusion from that statement other than
that you're breaking the law. You might want to stop doing that - you
might be able to relax.
Again, if you want to block it I have no problem with that. I think
you're overly cautious but it's entirely your choice.
There are since years threads in many Forums arround the world
about
Google and privacy violations.
Don't really see the relevance of that comment and my comment. Are you
actually reading what I'm typing? Block it if you want, I don't give a
rats behind, but (yes, back to the actual point I originally made)
don't block half of it and then complain that it's causing errors.
Google Analytics (which is where the Urchin code comes from) does
gather a tiny bit more information than normal server logs but none
of
it is personally identifiable or in any way a security risk. But just
This is not right... Once they HAVE infos about your ISP, you
are
tracable and Google hast the posibilities and resources to do it.
You are *anonymously* traceable. They still need a court order to
connect that information to you personally, and they don't hand those
out without just cause. Again, I suggest you stop breaking the law so
you can relax a bit.
Then don't use sites that use it from those countries. Or, better
yet,
turn your computer off and go play outside.
Really don't know where you're getting that from, but if it's even
remotely true nobody would be using Google Analytics. I'm betting
you're confusing Analytics with something else Google do, but for the
life of me I can't think what.
Sorry but it was already in the Press that the NSA is using Google
and
they have confimed it officialy!!!
Reference please? *How* are they using it? Are they using it like any
other individual or organisation would use it, or do they have an
illegal arrangement with Google to get access to personal information?
Just looking for more than your word, that's all.
Ooh, give 'em a peanut. I live and work in the UK and every site I
work on that uses Google Analytics has nothing specific about Google
Analytics in the privacy policy. They all talk about use of cookies,
IP addresses and server logs and I've never had any complaints.
Because most users care about there priacy?
I assume you mean "most users don't care". If people cared about their
privacy they'd do everything with cash which they'd stash under their
mattress, wouldn't use loyalty cards and certainly wouldn't go near
the Internet. Total privacy is overrated and extremely inconvenient.
I'd end with "get over it" but I just don't see it happening so let's
go with "live with it".
-Stut
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