Stut wrote:
On 9 Sep 2008, at 18:52, Nathan Rixham wrote:
Short and sweet; does anybody have any practical experience; thoughts
or case studies in regards to implementing the Zend Platform.
Yeah, I used it in my previous job a coupla years ago. It looks great,
the marketing hype is well executed but as usual the reality is far from
the promise. There are some aspects I really like, but mainly in
concept. What you actually get is expensive extra bloat to install on
your servers.
* The bytecode cache can be replaced by one of several free solutions
out there.
* The job queue is a great idea but the implementation is problematic at
best. Avoid this if you can.
* The centralised logging and the alerting features are nice - this is
probably the only but I really found useful.
* The clustering features I did not use so didn't look at too closely,
but it didn't appear to offer anything that couldn't be replicated
pretty easily with open source tools.
At the end of the day what you're buying is marketing hype, and there
are people out there who fall for it hook line and sinker. My advice is
that unless you have someone insisting you use ZP, don't. And even if
you do I urge you to look at what you actually need from it and evaluate
alternatives before making a commitment. Have you ever heard about
Facebook, Yahoo or any other big player using it?
Don't get me wrong, I think Zend is a great company, but I just don't
see the value in ZP. For the price of the license you could add another
server which will give you far better ROI and higher capacity then ZP
could ever achieve.
And don't get me started on what they've done to Zend Studio. I've
switched to Aptana - same platform, but cheaper and a lot more stable.
Shame!
-Stut
I agree with most of your post. The error logging features are great.
I haven't used ZP for a while, but when I did it was nice to get an
alert right away of what happened, and it also captured the variables in
use at the time so that you could see why it happened. If the error
reporting is what you're looking for, then the bytecode caching is a
nice addition, but like you said there are OSS alternatives.
I also completely agree with the Zend Studio comment. I've switched
back to Zend Studio 5.5, because the Eclipse version was just so
unintuitive... especially for debugging.
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Ray Hauge
www.primateapplications.com
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