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> From: Paul M Foster [mailto:pa...@quillandmouse.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 8:18 PM
> To: php-general@lists.php.net
> Subject: Re: [PHP] Zend Framework...where to start? -- don't.
> 

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> I agree and disagree. I agree there's waaay too much herd mentality in
> the programming field. (Fortunately, Linus Torvalds didn't listen to
> the
> academics who insisted that microkernels where THE WAY, or we wouldn't
> have Linux today.) OO is nifty for some things, but it's certainly not
> the "fountain of reusability" it was originally promoted to be. And I
> also agree about tables versus CSS. I can render a page very precisely
> with tables that would take me hours to get right with CSS. And I
> really
> don't give a crap about what "experts" say about anything. I find
> "experts" to be wrong much of the time.
> 
> OTOH, I just finished writing about 80K lines of PHP/HTML, all by
hand,
> no OO, no classes, no nothing. Each page in one file, except for a few
> helper functions in a couple of common files. I wouldn't want to go
> through that again. I've opted for a framework on rewriting this code,
> just to cut down on the number of lines of code I have to manually
> write. But I built my own framework, which doesn't call in 20 files
for
> each page load. Very compact. Probably not suitable for every kind of
> project, but it works for this.
> 
> Incidentally, I would differ from the reviewer in the link above only
> in
> this respect: He maintains that every line of code adds time. While
> this
> is true, I believe it's the number of files which have to be opened
> which drags down framework numbers the most. When I wrote C code, the
> CPU would blaze through the actual code, but file opens and reads
> consumed far more time than in-memory code execution.

http://www.giveupandusetables.com

'nuff said.


// Todd




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