Thanks for the info, I am a PHP developer who will have to maintain some
outsourced (darned) ASP codes.
For all ASP converts who are currently converting, look at
http://asp2php.naken.cc/
At 04:18 PM 8/2/2001 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Hokay, my 2p...
>
>I'm a (former) ASP programmer who just made the leap from ASP to PHP about 2
>weeks ago. A week ago I got my entire web-portal recoded to use PHP, a move
>that experience tells me can't be done as quickly and easily with ASP. All
>religious arguments aside, one must admit that (1) PHP is well documented
>and VBScript isn't (period); (2) PHP has many more USEFUL functions built-in
>that are already debugged and working; (3) the examples one finds on
>php.net, phpbuilder.net, or any other knowledge base actually WORK and are
>usually pretty clear; (4) there is absolutely no question that PHP's notion
>of security is truly secure, 100% in diametric opposition to IIS/ASP. I've
>tested that to destruction and am confident enough in it to release PHP as
>an alternative language for my web-hosting customers.
>
>I cannot repose the same confidence in ASP--even less confidence when Front
>Page extensions are wrapped around it. Note that I have never released ASP
>as an alternative language for my customers and given its documentation and
>security shortcomings, it's not likely to happen.
>
>Mind, I've used ASP for several years and am (unfortunately) intimately
>familiar with its shortcomings. Many of the string-manipulation functions
>inherent in PHP must be provided by third parties (like Vantage Point
>PowerStrings http://www.vpsoft.com) in order to do some tricky URL or
>input-cleaning routines. I challenge anyone to use M$'s mail objects with
>the same degree of security and reliability. Try and find real docs on
>VBScript -- there aren't any with any substance. M$'s site is useless as
>are the examples they give (which, by the way, NEVER work as demonstrated).
>M$ should be taking notes from php.net on how to present and maintain
>documentation.
>
>Now, if a paying customer insists that I do work for them using ASP, of
>course that's what I'll use. But I strongly advise against it now, given
>the points above. With only a couple of weeks of PHP under my belt, I'm
>still confident enough in the language itself and the documentation around
>it that I will be able to do any web job that comes along. I might have to
>have the manual at my side a bit longer, but as time goes on I find I refer
>to it less and less. All in all, a very natural succession of events.
>
>Guess that was more than two cents...keep the change :-)
>
>Bill
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Matthew Loff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 4:00 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: [PHP] Spot the difference?
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>
>
>I much prefer PHP, obviously... But posting to a PHP list isn't going to
>get you a very objective answer. I find PHP more versatile and easy to
>use, but an ASP programmer may tell you the same thing about ASP.
>
>Also-- try looking stuff up for yourself sometimes... I realize you're
>new to PHP, but at last count, you've sent 46 e-mails to this list in
>the past 10 days... 99% of your questions could be answered by going to
>the PHP manual, www.phpbuilder.net, or any of the FAQs that have been
>posted to this list in the past few days.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Kyle Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 8:42 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [PHP] Spot the difference?
>
>
>Well which is easier to program?
>
>
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "scott [gts]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "php" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 8:45 AM
>Subject: RE: [PHP] Spot the difference?
>
>
> > ASP is basically like PHP, only it uses a VB-based
> > language instead of perl/c-based one.
> >
> > which means it sucks - vb is evil.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jon Yaggie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Subject: Re: [PHP] Spot the difference?
> > >
> > > isnt this fact a good enough reason to believe it worthless???
> > >
> >
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