Hokay, my 2p...
I'm a (former) ASP programmer who just made the leap from ASP to PHP about 2
weeks ago. A week ago I got my entire web-portal recoded to use PHP, a move
that experience tells me can't be done as quickly and easily with ASP. All
religious arguments aside, one must admit that (1) PHP is well documented
and VBScript isn't (period); (2) PHP has many more USEFUL functions built-in
that are already debugged and working; (3) the examples one finds on
php.net, phpbuilder.net, or any other knowledge base actually WORK and are
usually pretty clear; (4) there is absolutely no question that PHP's notion
of security is truly secure, 100% in diametric opposition to IIS/ASP. I've
tested that to destruction and am confident enough in it to release PHP as
an alternative language for my web-hosting customers.
I cannot repose the same confidence in ASP--even less confidence when Front
Page extensions are wrapped around it. Note that I have never released ASP
as an alternative language for my customers and given its documentation and
security shortcomings, it's not likely to happen.
Mind, I've used ASP for several years and am (unfortunately) intimately
familiar with its shortcomings. Many of the string-manipulation functions
inherent in PHP must be provided by third parties (like Vantage Point
PowerStrings http://www.vpsoft.com) in order to do some tricky URL or
input-cleaning routines. I challenge anyone to use M$'s mail objects with
the same degree of security and reliability. Try and find real docs on
VBScript -- there aren't any with any substance. M$'s site is useless as
are the examples they give (which, by the way, NEVER work as demonstrated).
M$ should be taking notes from php.net on how to present and maintain
documentation.
Now, if a paying customer insists that I do work for them using ASP, of
course that's what I'll use. But I strongly advise against it now, given
the points above. With only a couple of weeks of PHP under my belt, I'm
still confident enough in the language itself and the documentation around
it that I will be able to do any web job that comes along. I might have to
have the manual at my side a bit longer, but as time goes on I find I refer
to it less and less. All in all, a very natural succession of events.
Guess that was more than two cents...keep the change :-)
Bill
-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Loff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 4:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [PHP] Spot the difference?
I much prefer PHP, obviously... But posting to a PHP list isn't going to
get you a very objective answer. I find PHP more versatile and easy to
use, but an ASP programmer may tell you the same thing about ASP.
Also-- try looking stuff up for yourself sometimes... I realize you're
new to PHP, but at last count, you've sent 46 e-mails to this list in
the past 10 days... 99% of your questions could be answered by going to
the PHP manual, www.phpbuilder.net, or any of the FAQs that have been
posted to this list in the past few days.
-----Original Message-----
From: Kyle Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 8:42 PM
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Subject: Re: [PHP] Spot the difference?
Well which is easier to program?
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----- Original Message -----
From: "scott [gts]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "php" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 8:45 AM
Subject: RE: [PHP] Spot the difference?
> ASP is basically like PHP, only it uses a VB-based
> language instead of perl/c-based one.
>
> which means it sucks - vb is evil.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jon Yaggie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Subject: Re: [PHP] Spot the difference?
> >
> > isnt this fact a good enough reason to believe it worthless???
> >
>
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