It's not so much the newbish questions but the determination of the part of the newbie to find an answer. I have found many of my answers on google or the web. Some extra searching is required. Many of the questions can be answered if some extra searching where involved. However, when you ask if they have researched some of the information and the reply is no...Then I say "RTFM and STFI"...
This is a general list and newbie questions should be asked here...However, newbies need to post adequate information for an adequate response... Thank you, Ray Hunter Firmware Engineer ENTERASYS NETWORKS > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Brampton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 7:04 AM > To: php > Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP FAQ (again) > > > Small flaw in this. The new user would have to actually go > and read the FAQ... I'm a member of many lists, and I've > never read the FAQ about the list... but I've allways been > aware that posting newbish questions is frowned on, so I never did so. > > So unless the FAQ was placed infront of them when signing up > to this list (if they actually sign up), then it might not > get the results you expect. > > But if it stops just 1 newbish post a year, then its worth it.. > > Andrew > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Justin French" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "php" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 1:57 PM > Subject: [PHP] PHP FAQ (again) > > > > I saw this mentioned a few times recently, but I'd really > like to put > > out the call again. > > > > This group needs an FAQ *specific to this list* which helps new > > members / posters integrate seamlessly... really, I'm sick > of seeing > > non specific subject lines like "please help", and I'm sure > we're all > > sick of typing replies to frequent questions, usually with > a response > > like "I think you should check the manual before posting". > > > > I'm sure we're also sick of posts which don't ask specific > questions > > ("what's wrong with my 150 lines of code??"). > > > > > > When I first joined this group, I too was unaware of what was > > considered a "good post" (and perhaps still, I don't > know!!), but some > > form of welcome email when people join the group, or a > reminder email > > sent weekly which "keeps the peace" on this list will not go astray. > > > > > > Perhaps it could: > > > > - include some information on how to use the online manual/website > > (and > the > > simplicity of searching) > > > > - cover some frequently asked topics which can be summarised with a > > link > to > > a few manual pages or external references (how many times do we see > > "user authentication", "sessions", "mail attachments", > "html email", > > "header redirect" and "javascript" in the subject line???? > Usually, > > the writer > asks > > a very generic question, seeks references and tutorials, or doesn't > > know what function to search for in the manual, or they're > just lazy. > > A quick reference to these frequent topics will save a heap of time > > for all concerned. > > > > - remind people that there is an archive to this list that can be > > searched (and include the URL) > > > > > > Some of the posts (including OT posts, ones with meaningless subject > lines, > > ones which ask insane questions, etc etc) in this group would be > > laughed > at > > by members of other programming language groups (Perl for example). > > > > As PHP grows as a language, and as the community of users > grows with > > it, this list is going to become higher volume. The FAQs > are going to > > become more frequent, and the poor use / misuse of this > list will grow > > with it. > > > > I can already see frustration growing in this list. > > > > > > I'd like to think that the list and it's standards can be raised a > > little, to make it a more valuable resource for all users, > without the > > grief. > > > > I attach as a reference a text file FAQ which is posted > frequently to > > the newsgroup comp.infosystems.www.authoring.stylesheets. > It provided > > me with an excellent resource when I first joined the > group, and does > > help the > list > > stay somewhat moderated and "clean". > > > > I'm not saying it's exactly what we need, but I do feel > it's time we > > do something. > > > > > > Sure, new users *could* find the archive by hunting, the *could* get > flammed > > for a bad post, poor question, or for not checking the > manual first, > > but wouldn't it be a smarter move long term for some sort of > > guideline/FAQ to > be > > incorporated into the list upon subscription, and perhaps > on a weekly > > basis?? > > > > > > I'm happy to help in any way I can, but don't consider myself "guru" > enough > > to develop this from scratch. > > > > > > Apologies for the long post, especially since this topic has been > > kicked around before. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Justin French > > -------------------- > > Creative Director > > http://Indent.com.au > > -------------------- > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------- > ---- > > > > -- > > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >
