On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Roy Huggins wrote: > +1 on using trigger_error() in examples, including in mysql_connect. In my > experience, it needs more exposure to newbies as it is a far more efficient > way of dealing with errors. (And it actually took me a couple years to > discover it! :)
I'm -1 on this; don't over complicate examples with trigger_error(). Example for functions should be short and the main topic should be the function, not trigger_error(). Derick > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Philip Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gabor Hojtsy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Sara Golemon'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 9:08 AM > Subject: Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: error handling [was: ugly cvs subject] > > > > > > I like the idea of trigger_error() and not using 'die'. Using > > 'die' in errors in unsexy and rather limiting but yes I remember > > we discussed this before too but it was only part of a huge > > discussion regarding the coding_standards RFC. I also feel > > 'or' for errors is unsexy and limiting. How about: > > > > if (!$conn = mysql_connect($host, $user, $pass)) { > > trigger_error("Cannot connect: ". mysql_error(), E_USER_ERROR); > > } > > > > Or will the !$conn part confuse people? Regardless, I agree > > if we don't use 'exit', and use trigger_error(), this would be > > a good thing. We would then update the trigger_error() docs so > > that even ultra newbies can understand them. Also the error > > would show by default still and be affected by the > > error_reporting function/directive. This is good. But, this > > brings up the point of should we use @ in examples, like, > > wouldn't the following be more appropriate? > > > > if (!$conn = @mysql_connect($host, $user, $pass)) { > > trigger_error("Cannot connect: ".mysql_error(), E_USER_ERROR); > > } > > > > I must admit my ignorance using trigger_error() and friends as > > I use my own but I'll mess with it a bit so I can better add to > > this discussion. Our examples should assume set_error_handler() > > is not being used but encourage its use and discuss how if the > > database is down how easy it is to show a pretty static html > > page instead. Maybe in a tutorial ;) > > > > Regards, > > Philip Olson > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Gabor Hojtsy wrote: > > > > > > IMHO, I think it's the newbies' decision on how and when to use > > > > functionality available in PHP. I see no problem with the examples in > > > > the documentation reflecting the use of functionality. There are > > > > countless examples in the manual currently which don't use what could > be > > > > considered "best practice", so trying to clutter things up with > > > > debugging logic in this case seems unreasonable (especially when there > > > > is still so much with poor or no reasonable documentation at all). > > > > > > As before, I would vote for trigger_error() insted of die(), because it > > > is "future compatible". So if the programmer introduces a new error > > > handler in his/her program, the errors are handled centrally. I also > > > think, that using trigger_error() instead of die() does not increase the > > > "confusion level" of one example, while introducing some > > > if (DEBUG == true) would increase that... If we stick to using > > > trigger_error() in the examples, users will find it first instead of > > > die(), and using trigger_error() is a much better practice than using > > > die() as it goes through PHPs error handler, so it can be logged, etc. > > > > > > We had a discussion on this before, but never come to a real > > > decicion... > > > > > > Goba > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > PHP Documentation Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > > > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > > > > > > > > -- > > PHP Documentation Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > > > > > > --- > This mail has been scanned for viruses by AVG. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.419 / Virus Database: 235 - Release Date: 11/19/2002 > > > -- > PHP Documentation Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Derick Rethans http://derickrethans.nl/ PHP Magazine - PHP Magazine for Professionals http://php-mag.net/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- PHP Documentation Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php