On Jan 5, 2009, at 14:49, Hannes Magnusson wrote:

A project of the Web Application Security Consortium is to try to classify and define security threats. For one of the definitions, we would like to possibly quote relevant parts of the PHP manual, but the license is a little
unclear. I'm hoping someone can help clarify.

At the bottom of each page, there is a copyright notice:

Copyright (c) 2001-2009 The PHP Group
All rights reserved.

Clicking on the copyright notice in the footer should make it obvious
what that statements covers.

"The code, text, PHP logo, and graphical elements on this website and the mirror websites (the "Site") are Copyright © 2001-2009 The PHP Group. All rights reserved. "

The manual is text, so I think this statement is part of the concern, not part of the clarification.

http://www.php.net/manual/en/ click on the "copyright" link (right
below the author list), or do like Brandon did, download the manual
(http://php.net/download-docs).

All ideas to make these sort of issues more obvious are welcomed.

The intent is clear, and thanks for the reassurance. I'm not sure intent matters in legal affairs, and the lack of precision is still likely to concern some people, but I'll pass this information along and let someone else worry about it. :-)

I'm not a lawyer, else I would happily offer advice about how to make these statements more precise. I do not think something can be copyrighted by multiple entities, so that is probably the primary issue. (Perhaps a related issue is whether the PHP Documentation Group is a legal entity. IBM had paperwork for PDO that said that the PHP Group was effectively a common law entity, but I'm not sure the same has been or even can be done for the PHP Documentation Group.) A single copyright holder can distribute something under multiple licenses, so I don't think the "all rights reserved" and CC license conflict. Again, this isn't my area of expertise; I'm just trying to act as a responsible conduit.

Thanks again,

Chris

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