On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 16:54, Maciek Sokolewicz <maciek.sokolew...@gmail.com> wrote: > A few days ago I deleted a note, and the author sent a mail to the > php-general list complaining about it. The answer by Dan was basically that > the notes maintainers are overzealous and the author should contact the > person who had deleted the note for clarification. Though I personally think > saying that notes maintainers are overzealous is simply incorrect and may > even be interpreted as insulting (yes, I do feel that way), that's not the > point I'm trying to discuss.
Well, you're certainly welcome to feel insulted at any time, but before you do, consider the facts: I'm a note maintainer as well, and I'm also by far the most active. Thus, if anyone is overzealous at times, it's likely to be me. It wasn't a slight against you (if I intended it to be, I'd have CC'd you on the email personally to make the point). I always encourage folks who complain about user note removal to contact the editor who removed it so that they can best explain their reason for deleting it. On occasion, I also confer with editors (particularly the newer ones) to see their reasoning for removing or rejecting notes. Most often, the reasons are justifiable; very rarely (though it does sometimes occur), the editor needs a bit of guidance as to what should or should not be removed. The most basic guidelines I see to follow as a user note editor are the very "dos and don'ts" the note submitter sees when adding a note to the documentation. If there is an obvious violation or ignorance of the rules, the note goes. Then, the guidelines (which are not rules, and should never become rules, because it would detract from the quality we've had thus far) come into play. From there, it's essentially a subjective process, left to the individual editor as to what adds value and what does not. Over the years, I've had literally dozens of folks either question or complain about my decision to remove a note, and I would say roughly one-quarter of the time, through discussion, I'm convinced by the submitter that the note does add value. Probably another one-quarter of the time the discussion ends in the submission of either a bug report or feature request. The remaining half is a combination of cases where the user simply did not read the pre-submission stanzas and either referred to another note or posted "improvements" on an existing code snippet; posted an overtly biased opinion on the language, site, or project members; linked to their own website or blog; or the note just plainly didn't belong in the manual, and I wasn't properly convinced otherwise by the submitter. When dealing with the notes, the biggest thing to remember is that we're editors; we're not here to please the submitting individuals, but rather the readers of the manual and attached notes. That's going to piss people off on both sides of the coin at times, and - quite frankly - that's just too bad. As long as the documentation continues to be as quality as it has been, my own opinion is that we're still doing things just fine. -- </Daniel P. Brown> Network Infrastructure Manager http://www.php.net/