On Wed, Aug 16, 2023 at 1:46 AM Tomas Hlavaty <picolisp@software-lab.de> wrote:
> On Mon 14 Aug 2023 at 09:05, Abraham Palmer <picolisp@software-lab.de> > wrote: > > I'm really a bread baker <http://boxturtlebakery.com> > > its fascinating how much IT stuff one needs to know to run a bakery > You could run it without the IT of course - it's just an interest of mine. > > i like muffins but the link to picture of muffins is broken > https://boxturtlebakery.com/products/culturedmuffins.jpg > > > my bakery in Python running against Google's Datastore database. > > do your customers know and agree with their info being given to google? > > Most of my customers really aren't tech savvy so wouldn't even stop to consider it. Still I don't disagree and am trying to move off of it. > but the churn of research languages is > > just as bad with things breaking pretty much every year. > > PicoLisp has the same problems, there are many "variants" and it is hard > to keep up. That is why I am stuck with old 32 bit C variant. But it > still works very well. > > If you want something fossilized, try common lisp. > > > tried Elm. It is very nice, but one is still very much embedded in the > > browser and JavaScript ecosystem and the churn of running things there > > is too much for me. > > I thought Elm has stabilized now? > > Yes, Elm v0.19 has been very stable (too stable for some - they would like more fixes and improvements) so it's the churn of the JavaScript ecosystem and I found it really hard to just stay in the Elm walled garden. > > I hope that that web approach of just using the browser for just the > > UI will keep things working on old and changing browsers without all > > the testing, polyfilling, etc. > > Why is this good in case of PicoLisp and not in case of Elm? > Because you insist on doing the backend in the same language? > Yes, I think it will really help my productivity to just have one language and set of dev tools. Elm does a good job of compiling down to a basic form of JavaScript and browser DOM but by the time I have to talk to a server with GraphQL or other APIs it has still become fairly complicated for my taste. I'll see how it goes as I work slowly on it the rest of the year. --Abraham > > -- > UNSUBSCRIBE: mailto:picolisp@software-lab.de?subject=Unsubscribe > -- http://boxturtlebakery.com (919)357-6034 abra...@boxturtlebakery.com
