Hi folks

Sorry to send this message to the list, but I'd like to contact Guillermo
and I lost his email address.
Please, could you contact me Guillermo
jribe...@greco.com.br
Thanks folks

Joao
----- Original Message -----
From: Guillermo <pen...@rogers.com>
To: <pinhole-discussion@p at ???????>
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] 120 mm zone plate


>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Daniel Bouman" <daniel_bou...@hotmail.com>
> >
> > have never used a zone plate before.  I've just received a 120 mm f/80
> for
> > use on a field camera and I have a few questions which I hope some one
> will
> > enjoy answering.  It seems to me that I should set the camera's front
> > standard 120mm from the film plane.
>
> Yes,  a 120mm lens, be it Schneider, Nikon, Canon, etc. or Zone plate, is
> made to focus "sharply" subjects at infinity when the lens is placed 120mm
> from the film plane.
>
> > If so, what are the near and far
> > limits of the field of "sharp" focus.
>
> Those are subjective limits with glass lenses, more so with pinhole and
even
> more so with ZP or pinhole sieves.  Having focal length and f/stop you can
> find those limits for your subjectivity by applying the lens formulas
> available in the lens faq (google find the faq)
>
> > I've read that zone plates don't have
> > the universal field of focus that pinholes have and can be focused.
>
> Yes, that's 'cause they do focus light.
>
> > If I
> > extend the bellows for a close in shot then I'm not using the zone plate
> at
> > the focal length it was designed for, right?
>
> If you extend the bellows and your subject is not at infinity, you are not
> using the lens at the focal length it was designed for, and it doesn't
> matter if it is zoneplate or your expensive Rodenstock lens.  When you
> extend the bellows, you are increasing the "effective" focal length of the
> lens, therefore you have to reduce the distance lens to subject, they have
a
> reciprocal relationship, you increase one you'll have to decrease the
other.
> In short, it is OK to use the ZP for a distance lens to film longer than
> 120mm, provided your subject is closer to the camera.  Again, refer to the
> lens faq to find out how much you should extend the bellows for a
particular
> distance lens to film.  Having said that, I wouldn't worry too much, I
mount
> my
> zoneplates at the "calculated" distance and use them like that no matter
> where the subject of my picture is.
>
> > Or is it that the depth of
> > field at f/80 is big enough to cover a subject at a foot or two from the
> > camera?  Any takers?  Cheers, Daniel Bouman
>
> In practical and for "lensless" imaging purposes the answer is yes.  In
> mathematical terms, you would have to extend the bellows beyond the focal
> length distance the lens was calculated for.
>
> For instance:  for your 120mm ZP and a subject at 2 feet (609.6mm) from
the
> lens, the bellows should be extended
>
> F=focal length the ZP was calculated for
> S=distance lens to subject
> I=bellows extension
>
> I = (S x F) /  (S - F)
> I = (609.6 x 120) / (609.6 - 120)
>
> I = 149.4mm
>
> Hope it helps,
>
> Guillermo
>
>
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