> I haven't been able to find a reasonablly priced 4 x 5 filmholder on eBay -
> I quit at a certain price or someone else just wants them worse than I do.
> 
> Can someone please explain the similarity or difference between  'film
> holder' like Lisco, Graflex, etc. and so called 'film packs'? Physical and
> operational differences would be nice, and do film packs come in B/W?
> 
> I built my own foam core 4 x 5 ish camera (3 little pigs style, just used
> whatever stuff I could find) prior to seeing the Stanford U web page but
> haven't figured out how the Stanford U project one works with film holders,
> or if a generic method would work without an 'official' holder.


    I think you inserted the entire digest in your message.  It was about
    600 lines long.



    A plain 4x5 film holder holds two sheets of film, one on each side.

    A film pack is a small package preloaded with 16 ? sheets of film.  You
    pull a paper tab to get the next sheet.  Film packs need a special holder
    to hold them in the camera.

    A Grafmatic is a special gadget that has thin metal holders for 6 sheets,
    but unlike a film pack, you load it yourself

        http://www.graflex.org/speed-graphic/grafmatic/

    There are pictures of film holders at:

        http://www.graflex.org/speed-graphic/accessories.html

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