...OTOH (I'm arguing against myself again), Eclipse also contains a
lot of code that is meant to replace standard JDK features (e.g. SWT),
and they did not abandon the standard package naming convention. SWT
is buried in "org.eclipse.ui.swt" (vs. "eclipse.swt"). Although I
still prefer the latter, Eclipse's credibility didn't suffer from
naming convention.
On Jun 5, 2009, at 9:04 AM, Greg Brown wrote:
Note that preferring "pivot.*" to "org.apache.*" isn't meant as an
affront to Apache per se. We came up with the Pivot package
structure long before we became an Apache project. Many things in
Pivot are an attempt to do something in a way that we think is
better than it has been done before. This is simply another example
of that philosophy.
On Jun 5, 2009, at 8:53 AM, Greg Brown wrote:
java and javax are reserved namespaces for platform classes, so I
don't see their relevance here.
The relevance is that Pivot's classes are meant to replace many of
these platform classes, and should therefore be given equal billing.
Regarding "outdated"... not using the reversed fully qualified
domain
name was the way old projects named their packages. That is the
outdated variety. Even junit, which is has been around since the
early
days has converted to org.junit.
I'm suggesting that the TLD prefix is outdated. I'd much prefer
"junit.*" to "org.junit.*", for example. How likely is a project to
use classes from "org.junit" and "com.junit" at the same time (if
the latter even existed)? IMO, not very. I'm assuming that's why
Microsoft dropped the convention when they came up with the C#
coding standards.
I don't see pivot.* being any less official than org.apache.pivot.*.
You have the full might of Apache there, and there's no need to have
to type in those package names anymore with current IDEs.
I understand that this is a minor distinction, but Sun's naming
guidelines make any classes not developed by Sun for the java(x).*
package seem like second-class citizens. It's hard enough as it is
to convince developers to use Pivot instead of the "official" UI
toolkits provided by Sun. Why make it any more difficult than it
needs to be?
OTOH, it is worth asking the question of whether or not the
"pivot.*" naming convention might actually make a developer *less*
likely to use Pivot. For better or worse, TLD naming is an
established convention, and going against the grain may provide
some developers with another reason *not* to use Pivot.
What do others think?
