On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 5:56 PM, Philip Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  I will simply say, that the more popular linux distributions, take the
>  opposite view: that the purpose of "the package", is to install, configure,
>  and make functional, the desired software, in a completely automated
>  fashion, as much as possible.
>
>  THAT, is what makes linux popular!!

Actually, one of the most unpopular things about GNU/Linux
distributions tends to be how packaging works.

As "easy" as it may appear to be sometimes, it's still often a
nightmare for users.

I think Danek and the others are right.

Hyperbole isn't going to help you prove your point.

>   I recently had an encounter with a sysadmin, who normally runs on solaris,
>  but set up a new service on linux... *specifically* because he didnt have to
>  do any tweaking.. he just did  [foo install software], and it was all set
>  up, running, and ready to go.

...and the package can do that. I don't see the problem in moving it
outside of the context of packaging.

>  To make the solaris experience as pleasant as the linux experience, the
>  extra automated handholding, must be done by "the packager".
>  As such, it seems to me to make the most sense, to give "the packager" the
>  maximum amount of flexibility and power, in "the packaging tools and 
> framework".

I don't see how the packager can't still do that.

-- 
Shawn Walker, Software and Systems Analyst
http://binarycrusader.blogspot.com/

"To err is human -- and to blame it on a computer is even more so." -
Robert Orben
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