2008/5/16 Nicolas Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 11:27:51AM -0700, Jordan Brown wrote:
>> Shawn Walker wrote:
>> > I personally would be horrified to see the pkg client get tied into a
>> > configuration system directly.
>
> I think you've misunderstood what's being asked for, and you've not
> acknowledged the fact that there's at least some things that we know
> need post-install configuration and the developers of packaging for
> those things will find ways to arrange for those post-install actions.
>
> The choice is: a standard way or a hodge-podge.
>
> I understand that we can't build Rome in one day, plus I'm not
> contributing code which probably means I've no right to demand answers,
> so: let's drop the subject.  Soon I'll be at least a consumer of IPS as
> a developer of packages, and then I think I'll be able to push issues of
> this sort, and hopefully contribute code.

By tied in directly, I meant that the client would have to be a
configuration tool as well as a package management tool.

I would much rather see a generic configuration tool that could tie
into the package database than see the configuration process become
part of the pkg client.

That's just my personal view though.

>> > It needs to be a separate tool.
>>
>> Yes and no.  They need to be part of the same picture.
>
> Exactly.  It can be a separate tool.  I have no objection to that,
> provided that there's a standard tool that all package developers who
> need it can use, and which provides a useful API and UI.

What I could see, and that I do think is valuable, and unique is a way
for a user of pkg to see which packages "need configuration" or
whether they are using the "default configuration". That might be an
interesting idea to pursue later on...

> This thread has dragged on and been inconclusive.  I think the best
> thing to do here is let this issue drop, and when either you or I or
> someone else needs this, then we can develop it and contribute it.

I have to agree for the moment. Despite appearances, I do wish to see
this issue resolved amicably. I just don't have a good feeling about
any of the possible solutions at present.

Cheers,
-- 
Shawn Walker

"To err is human -- and to blame it on a computer is even more so." -
Robert Orben
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