Shawn Walker wrote:
Frank Ludolph wrote:
Shawn Walker wrote:
Frank Ludolph wrote:
...
Emacs-nox (terminal-based) is not listed within Ubuntu's
Add/Remove. Add/Remove... does not list any terminal-based
applications. Ubuntu appears to agree with the proposition that
terminal-based applications are appropriate for only a limited
number of highly computer-skilled users. Mixing them in with GUI
applications will only lead to a number of issues for other users
who will install them while browsing for 'interesting'
applications, and, after installation, will not even be able to
find and start them. The highly-skilled users will have little
trouble finding them by searching or even browsing.
Just because Ubuntu does it, does not mean it is right. I believe
we can do better here. If our purpose in life is to just copy
Ubuntu, then let's just ship Ubuntu and be done with it.
In a related email Stephen said he would be reassured by examples
from another classification scheme where interaction style is a
determinant. That's why the Ubuntu comments are included. But in all
fairness I feel that Ubuntu does a pretty good job of application
management.
Ubuntu is fine as a point of comparison or suggestion, but I don't
believe Stephen was suggesting that any other system's way of doing
something should be taken verbatim. I leave it to him to comment
further.
Also, There's a huge problem with the comparison to Ubuntu's Add/Remove.
Our packagemanager is intended to manage *all* packages on the system
and, as a result, is more like Synpatic (available in Ubuntu) than it
is like the Add/Remove application.
The Add/Remove application from what I remember from using it, is
strictly about managing GUI Desktop Applications.
If you want that sort of functionality, then we need to come up with
our own equivalent to the Add/Remove application and use *another*
property *in addition* to the categorisation to determine whether an
application is shown there.
packagemanager is not the place to do that unless you want to have a
special mode that only manages "GUI applications" or some such thing.
No disagreements here. The PM really is trying to squeeze to related
functions into the UI. Given a separate Add/Remove... mechanism we would
be in much closer agreement.
Frank
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