Hey guys,

First of all, thanks to Sergei for bringing the issue (bug #724816) at the table!

Regarding bug #724816, we would like to initiate a transition from the XOTcl to its successor NSF:

http://next-scripting.org/

NSF is a shared infrastructure for both XOTcl 2.* (which is the direct successor of XOTcl 1.6.*) and NX, which adds a completely revamped language design. Using NSF, both XOTcl 2.* and NX come fully scripted (i.e., each language comes as a purely scripted Tcl package). NSF (and therefore XOTcl 2 and NX) require at least Tcl 8.5, but are also upward compatible and tested with Tcl 8.6.

NSF has been in use for over a year now in several production systems: It drives http://openacs.org/ and one of the largest university eLearning sites in Europe: http://learn.wu.ac.at/

As Sergei pointed out correctly, the XOTcl 1.* line does not build anymore with Tcl 8.6; and we do not intend to establish and to further maintain this compatibility given that there is a replacement: NSF and XOTcl 2.

How can we best prepare and perform the transition? Is there a chance to meet the Nov 5th deadline, somehow?

1) I have started creating a new debian package "nsf" which will contain the binary and scripted components of NSF, NX, and XOTcl 2. I base this on the infrastructure already established for the xotcl package (debian/*).

I will have completed this by tomorrow evening, most probably. Can I count on someone reviewing and promoting the package, then?

Have there been critical updates to the Tcl/Tk package maintainer guidelines which I should consider?

2) I will prepare an update for the "xotcl" package, to align the dependencies:

"xotcl" will depend on: tcl 8.4/8.5, tk 8.4/8.5
"nsf" will require: tcl 8.5+/ tk 8.5+

Note that "xotcl" and "nsf" (once installed) can coexist (e.g., under tcl 8.5 environment) since the Tcl package versions clearly discriminate between the two lines. Under 8.4 (if still relevant) and 8.6, respectively, they will be mutually exclusive because of the distinct runtime dependencies.

Is there anything I am missing from my "transition picture"?

Thank you all and all the best,
Stefan

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Vienna University of Economics and Business
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