On October 13, 2009, Martin Gräßlin wrote: > Am Dienstag 13 Oktober 2009 20:19:44 schrieb Aaron J. Seigo: > > On October 13, 2009, Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > > > both that and modifying kwin to gve it all the necessary atoms to > > > > activate all the needed effects :) > > > > > > Just give us a list which effects should be activated by a plasmoid and > > > we can add the atoms (which is everything except generic :-P) > > > > > > I think it makes sense for: > > > * present windows (atom already there for netbook shell) > > > * desktop grid > > > * cube > > > * tabbox effects (requires some changes to get them working without > > > alt+tab) * zoom effects? > > > > not sure the tab box is really needs, but the others could be quite > > handy. > > > > slightly off-topic: what would you think about making the "show windows / > > desktops zoomed out in some presentation" type effects not include the > > desktop panels? > > > > the reasons include: > > > > * the panel often has things like the tasks widget which shows all the > > windows but may also show only for the "current" desktop ... which > > doesn't work very nicely in overview modes > > > > * if the panels stayed un-transformed, it could give a really interesting > > visual effect where the "desktop area" gets transformed and the panel > > "overlays" remain as they are > > if you want to try it: the present windows effect has an option to not hide > the panel and the cube desktop switch animation does not hide the panels > by default and that one looks really slick.
just tried both of these options, and i have to agree: it looks much slicker with the panels remaining where they are. i think the desktop cube would look nicer and more consistent with the switcher without the panels included as well. > > * it would make some of these effects more consistent with the alt-tab > > box which does not transform the panels either > > Box Switch keeps them untransformed and the more fancy effects fade them > out. I think it would be possible to keep the panel in place instead of > fading it out. could the kwin devs consider make it a design guideline to not include panels in such effects but instead leave them untransformed? it just looks/feels so much more ... nicer. the only draw back would be if we ever make panels per-desktop. but then i guess the heuristic could be "don't transform panel windows that are also on all desktops"? -- Aaron J. Seigo humru othro a kohnu se GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43 KDE core developer sponsored by Qt Development Frameworks
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