On 2/18/20 1:37 PM, Albert Astals Cid wrote:
I still don't see why this is a problem, as said Plasma depends on a myriad of
libraries that are building each with their own release model, most probably
with no bugfix releases at all either.
The "we don't control the whole stack" argument does not apply to parts
of the stack that we do control. Improvement is possible even when
perfection is not.
Incidentally what happens is that those libraries are not buggy, and it seems
the Plasma-facing parts of KF5 are, well, let's make them not be.
Agreed. Everyone wants less buggy releases.
However "less buggy releases" does not fully solve the problem for LTS
distros that freeze their KF version. Without point releases of the
version they freeze on, we are unable to ship fixes for regressions that
do sneak in, and we are unable to ship fixes for old or longstanding
issues that we find a way to fix later. We can do both of these things
with Plasma. We cannot do either with Frameworks. That's the problem.
Ultimately I think we need to decide whether we want to fully support
the Plasma LTS or can it. Right now we're in this awkward position where
we can hand packagers tarballs with bugfix point releases of Plasma, but
not Frameworks. Ultimately this means that there's a class of bug that
just doesn't get fixed in the distros with LTS Plasma, which in the end
makes us look bad.
Nate
