On Monday 31 January 2011, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Monday, January 31, 2011, Marco Martin wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 2:22 AM, Aaron J. Seigo <ase...@kde.org> wrote: > > > it is time to go to that next step and move people away from the old > > > ways. > > > > yep, I would still like to push desktop beyond the desktop, resistence > > against is so amazing that i find it harder and harder. > > we need a concentrated effort between all areas for this i think, not > > just plasma ;) > > ok, so lets put together a roadmap and pitch it to the entire KDE devel > community and generate some consensus. >
perhaps some documents with use cases, personas etc. that involves workspace and some applications > > * it's not really done for containing applets, would almost mean > > > > dropping desktop widgets: > > - right now it contains widgets in a little panel like strip with > > > > horizontal form factor. now overly pretty. > > > > - making it contain free layout applets like the desktop would look > > > > quite dirty since applets would cover the launcher icons randomly > > hm, yes, good points. perhaps we could do some sort of melding of what the > newspaper containment does? a search area at the top, with results filling > in below it, and a scrollable grid for widgets below that? this is something worth exploring i think > > * being always mostly covered by windows limits the usefulness, as i > > said great in dashboard (this is quite true for widgets as well, but > > being smaller the problem is less strong) > > there are a few things we could do to "fix" this... e.g. when you click in > the search edit we could trigger it forward as a dashboard, and we could > advertise the keyboar shortcut for pulling it forward in the click message > text of the search edit? and the show dashboard widget could/should go in the panel by default probably > > * it empasizes the concept of starting apps, (or "start menu" if you > > want) a lot, that's really something i would like to get away with > > it has / could have more uses than just that, though. a > google-on-your-desktop .. > > if we use our imaginations a bit, i bet we could come up with all sorts of > useful things. e.g. with the widgets runner, it could be used to add > widgets to the desktop in response to queries: "cpu temp<enter>" and there > i have a cpu temp monitor on my desktop. there must be dozens of such > ideas? yup, indeed > > what about having it (or something similar) that appears as a big > > sidebar of the screen when clicking on the K icon? > > well, that'd be krunner or lancelot or raptor :) different concepts imo. but still quite similar, that is the thing that still doesn't completely sound to me. > > > * an icon in this S&L that takes you to your desktop folder .. in a > > > file manager. > > > > could be, i would still rather find a way to encoourage use of > > folderview as activity relevant file containers tough > > i'm trying to imagine a clever way to make it easy to go from a folder > returned as a search result to a folderview on the desktop. it could be > offered as an action on the QueryMatch, for instance, and make it easy to > "pin" that folder to your current activity layout instead of going through > the widget explorer? drag and drop is good, then a runner action as well. it would be nice some action/gesture whatever to transform dolphin windows into folderviews and back, something that looks organic... hmmm. > > > app launcher and when clicked brings up the actvities manager > > > > there is one on kde-look. however i remeber that you had a valid > > argument against it: it would slowly become basically a replica of the > > activity manager with most-but-not-all of its features. > > indeed; i was simply envisioning a button that would launch the full > activity manager UI. right now it is very hidden. yeah, so this wouldn't duplicate ui for the same feature. it just has to start very very quickly so ;) (it's still not so fast) Cheers, Marco Martin _______________________________________________ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel