On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 11:55 PM, Mark <mark...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 8:06 PM, Shaun Reich <sre...@kde.org> wrote: >> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Martin Gräßlin <mgraess...@kde.org> wrote: >>> >>> Technical implementation aside: I think that makes absolute sense: >>> * one vd by default >>> * do not show pager for one vd >>> * show pager if user uses more vds >> >> >> i agree that showing the pager only for on vd is a bit weird. but the issue >> i'd like to address is that if you make the pager invisible and not taking >> up space, then when the user is browsing the widget explorer seeing what he >> can add to the panel, he tries to add the pager widget, wondering what that >> does. but no feedback is given for adding it, and so they add it 10 more >> times. >> >> as mentioned in the rb, i've personally witnessed this happen, and this >> seems to confuse people, because they have no idea they need to go into >> system settings and set the virtual desktop to > 1. if it said so/told them, >> i imagine that would be fine as well. >> >> >>> >>> Focus on technical implementation: I don't care much and cannot judge it, >>> but >>> my personal vote would be to just drop the pager from the default setup. >> >> >> I agree on this, since I don't see virtual desktops being used by people >> other than power users. After all, we've got activities and we should be >> focusing/refining on that for the majority of our users. >> >> i think that if we remove it from the default setup, we don't have to worry >> about hiding the pager contents in the 1 vd scenario at all. > > Why are you folks discarding my usecase completely? Not even one > comment on it. My usecase is very valid, i'm having it right now as i > type this mail. > > Let me state it again. > Imagine you have a setup with 3 "displays". 2 monitors, 1 beamer. > Sometimes some apps decide to open up in my beamer area while the > beamer is off (i guess because i moved the window there at some > earlier time and closed the window in that area). When the pager was > just showing itself with 1 VD it instantly showed me that an app was > opened on the beamer area. One that isn't powered on. Discovering that > and dragging the app back to one of the areas that is powered on is > very convenient to have! > > I really think that you guys have a "1 monitor setup" opinion here. > Yes, the pager is utterly useless with just 1 monitor and one VT > because you see all apps on your monitor like you see them in the > pager thus it adds 0 value. That statement is just not true anymore > with more then one monitor. > > Don't expect me to put my VD setting on 2, 3 or 4. The bar gets quite > some width with 3 monitors. And having them in rows is also not very > nice to look at. > > I'd suggest sticking with how it was and showing the pager. Even if > you have just one VD.
It's not difficult or so. Getting it back is a simple one liner. Remove: visible: repeater.count > 1 from main.qml (/usr/share/apps/plasma/packages/org.kde.pager/contents/ui/) and it's back. After a plasma-desktop restart or removing/re-adding the pager. Just putting this in here because some people would likely want to have it back and simply don't know how to do that. _______________________________________________ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel
