On Wednesday 13 February 2013 10:58:09 Mark wrote: > On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Aurélien Gâteau <agat...@kde.org> wrote: > > Le Tuesday 12 February 2013 23:55:39 Mark a écrit : > >> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 8:06 PM, Shaun Reich <sre...@kde.org> wrote: > >> > On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Martin Gräßlin <mgraess...@kde.org> > > > > wrote: > >> >> Technical implementation aside: I think that makes absolute sense: > >> >> * one vd by default > >> >> * do not show pager for one vd > >> >> * show pager if user uses more vds > >> > > >> > i agree that showing the pager only for on vd is a bit weird. but the > >> > issue > >> > i'd like to address is that if you make the pager invisible and not > >> > taking > >> > up space, then when the user is browsing the widget explorer seeing > >> > what > >> > he > >> > can add to the panel, he tries to add the pager widget, wondering what > >> > that > >> > does. but no feedback is given for adding it, and so they add it 10 > >> > more > >> > times. > >> > > >> > as mentioned in the rb, i've personally witnessed this happen, and this > >> > seems to confuse people, because they have no idea they need to go into > >> > system settings and set the virtual desktop to > 1. if it said so/told > >> > them, i imagine that would be fine as well. > >> > > >> >> Focus on technical implementation: I don't care much and cannot judge > >> >> it, > >> >> but > >> >> my personal vote would be to just drop the pager from the default > >> >> setup. > >> > > >> > I agree on this, since I don't see virtual desktops being used by > >> > people > >> > other than power users. After all, we've got activities and we should > >> > be > >> > focusing/refining on that for the majority of our users. > >> > > >> > i think that if we remove it from the default setup, we don't have to > >> > worry > >> > about hiding the pager contents in the 1 vd scenario at all. > >> > >> Why are you folks discarding my usecase completely? Not even one > >> comment on it. My usecase is very valid, i'm having it right now as i > >> type this mail. > > > > What Shaun and Martin suggest would actually fix your problem. If the > > pager is not in the default setup, then there is no need to hide it when > > only one vd is there, so you would be able to add the widget to your > > panel and see your windows. > > That would not fix it at all. > It would still show up empty with just one VD if i choose to add it. I think what Aurélien meant is that we could change the behavior of pager again once it is not part of the default setup
-- Martin Gräßlin
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