I'm also +1 for recommending timo's sprint proposal as strategic sprint. -- Sent from my Nokia N9On 19.08.13 00:02 d...@programmatic.pro wrote: Hey, In general the idea of marathon sprints is a good one.but for me, as probably for many other potential sprinters, doing a 4 week sprint is quite impossible, because of at least 2 reasons: client work can't wait for 4 weeks (I'm self employed) and family responsibilities won't allow it too. But if there are some guys who can make it, why not. although i think there should be a core sprint time, where as many sprinters as possible should be on site.that would ensure better effectiveness. That said, I'm +1 for another strategic sprint.
-- Sent from my Nokia N9On 15.08.13 05:05 Franco Pellegrini wrote: There's a big +1 from me... I don't think I can make it for the whole 4 weeks, I'm thinking maybe getting there around the 9th or so... but I still need to pull a few strings in terms of time and organization, and also see if I can have some financial aid for the plane tickets... but this is definitely an amazing idea, hope to see it happening ! On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 4:41 AM, Maarten Kling <maar...@fourdigits.nl> wrote: Hello FWT, We experienced a 'marathon' sprint ourselves and that works very well. In April we went to Ibiza with 10 people to work on a project. Having people all together in a closed environment worked out pretty well, and the results where a finished project as planned. We had 4 sprints for 1 week (1month total), all had there own goals. If people are up for this we can facilitate this Sprint Marathon at our office, including sleeping spots for free. We have a kitchen (and bar :)) available to provide cooking and lunch. All other necessary facilities are available (washing machine, shower, beer, garden). Our initial plan was to do a sprint from 11th until 15th November. We can extend this for the marathon to start 28th October and end 22th November. This way the Americans can be home for Thanksgiving. We can have 4 sprints for a week, having people sign-up for single week sprint or the complete run. We are definitely planning all goals upfront. Plone5 will be the topic. Depending on the work done at the ploneconf sprint, we will create an manage backlog for the remaining topics. Let me know how you think. Regards, Team 4D -- Maarten Kling http://fourdigits.nl/mensen/maarten-kling Four Digits BV http://www.fourdigits.nl Jansbinnensingel 26, 6811 AL, Arnhem tel: +31 (0)26 4422700 fax: +31 (0)84 2206117 KVK 091621370000 BTW 8161.22.234.B01 On 8/7/13 6:09 PM, Rok Garbas wrote: Quoting Timo Stollenwerk (2013-08-07 09:10:18) Hi FWT, while you're at it, would you mind considering to recommend the sprint in Cologne in February next year as strategic sprint to the board as well? (I'm still on holidays, so I haven't had the time to push this further yet) I'd be more than happy to discuss possible sprint goals with the FWT. My initial idea was to focus on p.a.contenttypes/p.a.event but I'd guess that we will have solved most problems until February. Therefore code cleanup (formlib->z3cform; skins removal, package consolidation, etc.) could be one of the main topics. Though, anything that brings us closer to Plone 5 and that makes sense at that point is fine with me. would it make it feasible to do "marathon" instead of a sprint just to push plone 5 out sooner. usually what happens on sprint is that we get things 90% done, but then it takes months to get that last 10% done. with "marathon" it would mean to bring developers together for a month with a goal to release plone 5. probably not all developers could attend it for whole month but there should be core team of "marathoners" that will be there from day one. i know that this idea sounds crazy, eg: how can we get one month off from our "day" jobs? but the result would be plone 5 being ready at least half a year earlier, which sounds to be worth at least giving a though if not trying to organize it. and why i'm saying this in this thread. there are many sprints in germany around that time (at least it was like that in previous years) which, if we combine them, would mean first plone "marathon". Maybe we can take Eric's Plone 5 suggestions and create a more detailed roadmap (tasks, sprints, champions) how to realize our Plone 5 goals. Once we have such a roadmap we can plan the (stategic) sprint topics accordingly. i'll prepare details list of things that need to be done to get p.a.widgets/toolbar ready for production use. -- Rok Garbas - http://www.garbas.si _______________________________________________ Framework-Team mailing list framework-t...@lists.plone.org https://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plone-framework-team _______________________________________________ Framework-Team mailing list framework-t...@lists.plone.org https://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plone-framework-team _______________________________________________ Framework-Team mailing list framework-t...@lists.plone.org https://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/plone-framework-team
