Alan W. Irwin wrote:
> On 2009-10-05 12:44+0200 Zorg 421 wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 7:37 PM, Alan W. Irwin 
>> <ir...@beluga.phys.uvic.ca> wrote:
>>> On 2009-10-04 08:52+0200 Zorg 421 wrote:
>>>> the cairo driver of plplot implies it's using X11, which is not
>>>> necesseraly the case on the mac, more and more it's using quartz
>>>> natively.
>>>
>>> I agree with you (since Quartz is mentioned as a possible back-end for
>>> cairo) that programming an additional quartzcairo device would be 
>>> desirable
>>> for the OS X case.  It should also be straightforward; just follow 
>>> the notes
>>> in drivers/README.drivers (just updated as of revision 10512) that list
>>> required changes for a new device.  In general, the process is 
>>> completely
>>> straightforward for everything other than the actual device code, but in
>>> this particular case that should be straightforward as well: edit
>>> drivers/cairo.c to duplicate what is done for xcairo for a new 
>>> quartzcairo
>>> device except to change the calls to libpango/libcairo appropriately 
>>> for the
>>> Quartz backend.
>>
>> Maybe is't better, if the changes appears to be two includes like
>>
>> #include <cairo-quartz.h>
>> #include <gdkquartz.h>
>>
>> instead of
>>
>> #include <cairo-xlib.h>
>> #include <gdkx.h>
>>
>> It's from memory, but there was a time for wich changes to lablgtk2
>> was a simple as this.
> 
> Apparently not any longer.  In addition to different headers, you also need
> different initialization calls for X versus Quartz versus WIN32 see
> http://cairographics.org/manual/cairo-xlib-surface.html versus
> http://cairographics.org/manual/cairo-quartz-surface.html versus
> http://cairographics.org/manual/cairo-win32-surface.html.
> 
> Those URL's lead to questions for Hazen (our cairo maintainer).
> 
> Hi Hazen:
> 
> Would you be willing to implement access to the quartz and win32 
> backends in
> cairo.c? I think there is a case for having both xcairo and (say)
> quartzcairo devices simultanously accessible on OS X (rather than just one
> or the other) and similarly xcairo and (say) win32cairo devices on Windows
> environments with access to X (e.g., Cygwin) in order to facilitate
> comparisons between those different interactive backends.  However, if you
> prefer just one (possibly renamed) interactive device with conditional
> coding to facilitate which X, or Quartz, or WIN32 backend is used for that
> one interactive device, that approach is fine as well with me.
> 
> I don't want to dismiss how much work would be involved (especially the
> testing on the OS X and windows platforms accessible to you), but the
> project does look completely straightforward.  I assume the largest
> difference between access to the X, Quartz, and WIN32 backends would be the
> use of the cairo_quartz_surface_create call or cairo_win32_surface_create
> call instead of the cairo_xlib_surface_create call (currently in
> xcairo_init_cairo). Obviously, different headers would be required as well
> for each backend.

My recollection is that these backends were considered experimental, or 
at least they were back when I used to monitor the cairo mailing list? 
Assuming that this is no longer the case then it seems reasonable to 
support them. However, I foresee some pain in interfacing with Quartz / 
win32 to create a window, handle its events, etc. On OS-X this is 
probably going to involve rolling some Objective-C into the driver.

-Hazen


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