On Oct 13, 2009, at 4:11 AM, Michael Sperber wrote:
Matthias Felleisen <matth...@ccs.neu.edu> writes:
2. While I appreciate the compliments, I will say that I forbid my
students to mention Scheme on their resume. I tell them time and
again
that they are not learning Scheme (there is lots more to learn before
you even scratch the surface of Scheme), and that the course isn't
about Scheme. Seriously, I would expect that someone with a full HtDP
background (or basics: I through VI) would need another semester to
get to the basic level of programming where I would even consider
someone fluent in a language.
That does not matter. The average training in language X where people
put X in their resume and their employers are happy is much, much,
much
less than HtDP. (Also, it isn't really Scheme that matters - it's
functional programming.) I completely agree with Neil that it would
be
useful. They don't have to be current numbers. They could be an
estimate, ... whatever. But having that kind of statement would help
people like Neil and me.
1. Don't under-estimate the power of writing for(i=0,...) for four
years.
You get so good at writing down loops first and thinking later, you dont
even notice the mistakes you're making. (Don't overlook the seriousness
of the remark over the little surface joke.)
2. My back of the envelope calculation suggests that this fall semester
alone some 2,200 students are enrolled in HtDP-based courses in
universities
across NA (NEU, WPI, Brown, Vassar, Seton Hall, Delaware, Waterloo,
UChicago,
UCal, UBC), and that's a low estimate. My guestimate would be that
over the
past 5 years some 5,0000 students have been though such a course. This
is a
*low* estimate.
(This does not count high school approaches because they cover only some
10-20 sections and we have no clue how many do it.)
-- Matthias
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