> That's my point.  Is a standard really a standard if the majority does not
> follow that particular rule?

        Absolutely. Is the speed limit really a law, if nobody follows it?

        (Yes, a law is not a standard, but I think the analogy is close.)

> Standards are good things, but if you end up being the only one following
> a specific set of spec's who are you hurting?

        Who would I be hurting? Nobody.

        Standards exist for a reason, and if nobody chooses to follow them,
there is "do-whatever-you-want" community running amuck, which solves
nothing and causes more headaches for end-users and developers who have to
compensate for those who choose to do whatever they want. Just because
nobody (web developers) choose to follow the established standards, does not
mean they simply vanish and do not exist.

        If I'm the only one following the standards, I can be sure that I'm
the only one who will be guaranteed that it will work everywhere that the
standards are applied (i.e. standards-compliant browsers in this case, not
IE here).

        I understand your issue, and I've compensated for many HTML-side
inadequacies in my code already (and added another one yesterday which I
mentioned here), but in the end result, unless the "webmasters" are sternly
notified that their site is in violation of the standards ("Whaddya mean
standards, I use FrontPage and Microsoft Word to make my websites, it IS the
standard, isn't it?"), nothing will improve, and it will only propagate.

        I'm all for fixing it for the end users on our end (Plucker's
distillers), but I'm also strongly in favor of fixing it for _all_ the
users, and that means on the offending website end with an email to them
detailing the 'Wh(at|o|ere|y)' their site is non-compliant.

> If I was able to fix this I would.  But currently I don't have the skills.

        Ditto, but I don't know python, so I let those experts fix it.

        I'm not against fixing it, I'm against fixing it in only one place,
the one that doesn't fix the _problem_, only fixes the symptom, thas'all.

d.

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