I agree it has value. I learned it. Do I use it? Rarely. We use it on non 
control panel servers. 

Jason

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> On Oct 26, 2014, at 1:16 PM, jill <li...@bespokess.com> wrote:
> 
> I would disagree on this point.  Without getting into a debate over how/if it 
> works with cPanel, which I've never used, selinux absolutely has value.  Well 
> beyond "if you're bored or taking a cert exam".  A lot of people did say to 
> just disable it when it was new and seemed like to much effort to learn and 
> we have lingering remains of that in blog posts and docs here and there.  And 
> no, not every workload in the world requires it.  But that's a heck of a 
> kneejerk reaction to take without actually considering the technology and 
> where/if it fits for you.
> 
> selinux does have an initial learning bump of getting used to thinking in 
> terms of access control beyond file ACLs and iptables, but it's not voodoo 
> and it is used very extensively and effectively in the real world.  For 
> running an isolated dev environment like your initial question I'd say run it 
> in permissive (not disabled) because that way it won't stop you doing 
> anything but you can still see from audit.log what would/would not have 
> happened and use that to learn from if you are so inclined.
> 
> You wouldn't disable iptables on external facing servers just because you had 
> an ASA in front of them (I hope).  Same thing.  Don't disregard a tool just 
> because you also have another, different one, especially for security.
> 
> Jill
> 
> 
>> On 2014-10-26 17:54, Keith Smith wrote:
>> 
>> Probably not going to spend any time learning selinux then.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2014-10-26 12:52, Sesso wrote:
>>> We have over 2000 servers and 0 have selinux enabled. I guess you
>>> could understand it if you got bored or you wanted take a RHCE test.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 26, 2014, at 10:29 AM, Keith Smith <techli...@phpcoderusa.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> No cpanel.  It is a LAMP testing server running in VirtualBox.  I was 
>>>> wondering if I should spend the time to understand selinux.  If it is 
>>>> not used on production vhost servers than I will not spend the time.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks!!
>>>> Keith
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2014-10-26 12:15, Sesso wrote:
>>>>> I guess it depends on what you are doing with it. Are you running
>>>>> CPanel ? We disable it on all of ours.
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> On Oct 26, 2014, at 9:41 AM, Keith Smith <techli...@phpcoderusa.com> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> I am configuring a CentOS 7 LAMP server in a virtualbox.
>>>>>> I always disable selinux on my private dev servers.  I read I should 
>>>>>> leave selinux enforcing.  I am not configuring anything public so 
>>>>>> either way I'm sure I am safe.  I was just wondering if selinux 
>>>>>> should be left enforcing.
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>> Keith
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