Buy one. They last forever. I have been using apple Apple products for many 
years and they are very stable. Newer ones with SSD are going to be what you 
want. I've only had to replace a hard drive once back when i had a spindle. 
Just get a used one that us a year old and you will save a lot if you don't 
like the price. I recently got rid of my iPhone out of boredom bht I use a Mac 
pro desktop, 15 inch MacBook pro, and iPad.  All solid. We even have Mac minis 
in the house.  Those are really cheap and work well if you don't need a laptop. 
Jason


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-------- Original message --------From: Anon Anon <lokotejo...@gmail.com> Date: 
8/24/16  9:05 AM  (GMT-07:00) To: Main PLUG discussion list 
<plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> Subject: Re: MacBook 
I have a MacBook pro I use at work. It's a Mac. It'll work. It's a bastardized 
bsd box.
I haven't turned mine off in months. If you need a Mac, buy it.
Why not try running mac os in a virtual box machine to try it out before hand?

On Aug 24, 2016 08:54, "Keith Smith" <techli...@phpcoderusa.com> wrote:




Hi,



I'm strongly considering buying a Macbook pro.



I'm a LAMP (PHP) developer.  Currently I use Mint on a Dell.  Both laptop and 
desktop. I do have a Dell laptop that runs M$ 10.  Was a bad move upgrading 
from M$7 to M$10... another story for another day.



The reason for my desired move is I want something that just works.  I do not 
have the time nor do I have the expertise to maintain Linux Mint when there is 
an issue.  For instance Dropbox does not launch correctly. I have a work 
around, but do not want to have to figure this stuff out.  JoinMe.com does no 
work completely on my Linux desktop and I need it so I use my Windows laptop.  
I can watch but I cannot become the presenter.



Moving to Mac is purely a business decision.



Up to this point I have bought cheap on sale Dell.



I also need Virtualbox because I need to develop using PHP 5.6 and PHP 7.



In doing my research I have narrowed my search to the Macbook Pro 13.3 or 15.4 
inch models.  I'm leaning towards the 15.4 since it has 16GB of RAM.  I suspect 
with the SSD drives these Macs have to sing.



My shock is the $2000 price tag.  Yikes.  I'm used to cheap dell hardware that 
I pay $300 to $400 for on sale.  I can see Best Buy is selling the MacBook at a 
slightly discounted price.



If I can be just a little more productive the Mac will pay for itself in no 
time.



The other thing I like about the Pro is it allows for driving two external 
monitors.  At the resolution the Pro provides that should be a lot of real 
estate give the laptop monitor makes 3. The only downside I am aware of is with 
the external monitors the refresh rate drops to 30Hz.  I think someone on this 
list brought that up and they did not like that low of a refresh rate.



I think I would find iMovie and Pages useful.  And I could add an iPhone to the 
mix and utilize those benefits.



If I buy the Mackbook pro 15.4 inch with 16GB of RAM what would be a reasonable 
life expectancy in a production environment?  What would I be able to 
reasonably expect working it 12+ hours a day, day in day?



Any and every thought is much appreciated.





-- 

Keith Smith

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