On 2017-03-08 12:51, Bob Elzer wrote:

All this comes down to morals. Our constitution will not survive an immoral people. Most of what the federal government is doing is not authorized by the U.S. Constitution.


They were probably just seeing into the future. Lol

On Mar 8, 2017 12:39 PM, "Anon Anon" <lokotejo...@gmail.com> wrote:

Remember the good old days when people who believed their tv was
watching them were crazy?

On Mar 8, 2017 12:23 PM, "Matthew Crews" <mattcr...@mattcrews.com>
wrote:
Many smart TVs these days have built in cameras and microphones...

On Wed, Mar 8, 2017, 12:21 Bob Elzer <bob.el...@gmail.com> wrote:

Well they are welcome to listen in on me. But I don't have a
listening device, they are welcome to send me on of those 65"
Samsung devices, I'll make room for it.

Are you reading this guy's ?

On Mar 7, 2017 5:52 PM, "Eric Oyen" <eric.o...@icloud.com> wrote:

yeah, you are right there. However, they will have to eventually
justify those expenses, so the more expensive we make it for them,
the more likely it is that they may be forced to give up and let us
have more secure products.

one other point to offer, we might end up having to file an FOIA
request to get the source code for all of these malware tools. then
we could take them apart, figure out how to disarm them and create
more secure linux devices. Then again, one can dream. :)

-eric
From the central office of the Technomage Guild
special office: cyber security

On Mar 7, 2017, at 5:27 PM, Anon Anon wrote:

We could start a movement or group but they spend a lot of money
infiltrating those groups. There isnt a lot of ways to reliably
compete against their tactics....

On Mar 7, 2017 17:07, "Eric Oyen" <eric.o...@icloud.com> wrote:
OMFG!
*sigh* leave it to bureaucrats to completely foul things up as
usual. Now, had this come out some 20 years ago, people would have
thought it to be in the realm of science fiction. oh wait, there was
one such film: swordfish!

perhaps its time we all started a consortium to combat this? I would
rather see a secure system that requires multiple levels of security
than this.

-eric
from the central office of the Technomage Guild.
Special office: cyber security.

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