heheh. I would make room for that too. then I would install a little white 
noise generator device right next to the TV. good luck hearing anything in the 
room then. :)

-eric
From the central office of the Technomage Guild, special devices Dept.
On Mar 8, 2017, at 12:21 PM, Bob Elzer wrote:

> Well they are welcome to listen in on me. But I don't have a listening 
> device, they are welcome to send me on of those 65" Samsung devices, I'll 
> make room for it.
> 
> Are you reading this guy's ?
> 
> 
> On Mar 7, 2017 5:52 PM, "Eric Oyen" <eric.o...@icloud.com> wrote:
> yeah, you are right there. However, they will have to eventually justify 
> those expenses, so the more expensive we make it for them, the more likely it 
> is that they may be forced to give up and let us have more secure products.
> 
> one other point to offer, we might end up having to file an FOIA request to 
> get the source code for all of these malware tools. then we could take them 
> apart, figure out how to disarm them and create more secure linux devices. 
> Then again, one can dream. :)
> 
> -eric
> From the central office of the Technomage Guild
> special office: cyber security
> 
> On Mar 7, 2017, at 5:27 PM, Anon Anon wrote:
> 
>> We could start a movement or group but they spend a lot of money 
>> infiltrating those groups. There isnt a lot of ways to reliably compete 
>> against their tactics....
>> 
>> On Mar 7, 2017 17:07, "Eric Oyen" <eric.o...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> OMFG!
>> *sigh* leave it to bureaucrats to completely foul things up as usual. Now, 
>> had this come out some 20 years ago, people would have thought it to be in 
>> the realm of science fiction. oh wait, there was one such film: swordfish!
>> 
>> perhaps its time we all started a consortium to combat this? I would rather 
>> see a secure system that requires multiple levels of security than this.
>> 
>> -eric
>> from the central office of the Technomage Guild.
>> Special office: cyber security.
>> 
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