On 2021-05-10 00:47, Eric Oyen via PLUG-discuss wrote:
Hmmm.
It seems to me like ISPConfig might be a bit more than needed for
running a home server or two.
Now, as for my situation, I also am on a cox business class circuit
(recently upgraded to 100 Gbits/sec downstream and 20 Gbits/sec
upstream. The Nighthawk brand router I have in place for my
firewall/wifi node is ok, but honestly, I would rather have a linux
laptop running as the firewall. I could do a lot more with that than
the current hardware (including having a speech engine running on it
for those times when I need to do something in console mode). At
least, with linux (or one of the *BSD’s), I have a lot more control
over what I want to do.
Given some of the lessons learned over the years, I would have pass
throughs on separate virtual subnets for external servers (like a tor
node, web server, etc). Let the laptop be a dedicated firewall. Only
two issues might make this a bit of a problem:
1. The laptop would have to have at least 2 ethernet ports on it, and
as far as I know, that’s actually quite rare
2. Setting up virtual subnets answerable through a single ethernet
device are a real pain.
Failing that, perhaps a small desktop machine (MicroATX with some
spare slots, 4 GB of ram and a small SSD) would be more appropriate.
Then I could add a 5 port ethernet card on a PCI—x slot and also have
a couple of other goodies runnin.
Thoughts?
Also, will ISPConfig actually run under Linux or is it one of those
silly windows only apps? I only ask this because I have seen the
windows installer for it but haven’t run across the linux or BSD
versions of it yet.
I was unaware it runs on Win. I'm looking to run it on Ubuntu LTS
-Eric
From the Central Offices of the Technomage Guild, data center
operations dept.
On May 9, 2021, at 6:39 PM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
<plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
Thank you for your reply. I'll checkout Ajenti.
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On 2021-05-09 13:24, Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss wrote:
Ajenti might be a bit more what you are looking for. It is less ISP
hosting oriented, and more for general single-server management.
On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 11:09 AM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
<plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
I should have given more info.
I am not a system admin I am a PHP developer. I think I know a fair
amount about Linux when it comes to PHP/MySql hosting. For instance
I
used an old laptop to create a development environment using my Cox
business connection and for DNS I use ZoneEdit. I think it might be
running Ubuntu 218.04LTS.
Mail and DNS are beyond my limits. I do understand DNS, however I
could
know more.
About 6 years ago a friend built me a complete web server on an old
desktop that way just laying around. It worked well.
Based on that I bought a Dell i3 with 8G of RAM. I was going to do
all
my hosting locally ... I know foolish... But it was a learning
project.
Fast forward 6 years or so and the i3 has never been used. I'm
pretty
sure about 3 years ago I swapped the spinner for an SSD.
Another friend who owns a data center asked me to evaluate ISPConfig
maybe 3 years ago. I found it confusing and there was little
information available beyond what ISPConfig provided.
So here I sit with and i3, a copy of Ubuntu 20.04LTS, and an
Internet
connection that does not block ports.
Currently I am hosting my websites on a VPS that is managed by
Plesk.
Plesk is really nice and has so many features I'm sure I have missed
some opportunity.
Based on all of this I do not want to do away with my VPS I just
want to
configure that now old i3 and play around with it.
What I am looking for:
1) Automate creating vhost accounts. ( I think I read that ISPConfig
is
a replacement for WHM and Cpanel)
2) Automate creating DNS zone files.
3) Automate creating email accounts.
4) Automate registering and configuring Let's Encrypt certs.
Basically something that does for me what Plesk does for me. I am
not a
mail man nor is DNS really something I would like to manage by hand
-
maybe sometime in the future.
Thank You for All Your Feedback!!
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On 2021-05-08 20:22, James Mcphee via PLUG-discuss wrote:
ISPConfig is a web application so other people can host websites
on
your stuff. It's a fat stack to maintain, and as such will take
much
more time to work with than just standing up a webserver.
If you're looking at learning ISPConfig, then there's no
alternative.
Things like it are cPanel and Plesk if you want that kind of
thing,
but haven't decided on ISPConfig.
If you're just looking at standing up a webserver to do webservery
things, then i'd recommend not getting overly complicated.
Install
just what you need so you don't end up with a giant stack to
maintain,
instead of focussing on what you're trying to learn.
There aren't many details on what you're looking for as an end
result,
so I can't offer much advice there. Generally I stand up a
loadbalancer that takes traffic from the interwebs, and use that
to
route to whatever server behind I feel like playing with that day.
But this is very specific to my use case, and not for everyone.
On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 7:22 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
<plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
I have a business account with Cox and they allow servers. It
will
be
public facing. I would like to hear more about "it makes
assumptions
you may or may not be willing to accept.".
Thank you for your feedback!!
On 2021-05-07 21:19, Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss wrote:
ISP config is really geared to running an external facing server
and
become hosting. It's very good for that, but it makes
assumptions
you
may or may not be willing to accept.
On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 6:31 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
<plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
Hi,
I am considering configuring a "home web server" using
ISPConfig.
This
is not a production situation. It is for learning.
Any thoughts?
Thanks!!
Keith
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