I'm in the opposite realm - was a programmer and kind of an admin (glorified script kiddie?), went into networking, and then got back into programming, because it was a "thing" to automate networks. It's now my full time job, and I enjoy it a ton. The network to code slack is full of network engineers who have become that new hybrid. Sorry if that doesn't help from the opposite direction!
- Thomas Scott | mr.thomas.sc...@gmail.com On Fri, Jan 7, 2022 at 7:57 PM Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss < plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > With the whole transition to libera.chat for irc and taking some time off > from work, I've taken to hanging out there a bit, and this is a common > thing I'm seeing in the #networking chat. I'm seeing a lot of devs showing > up in #networking asking for hosting/sysadmin stuff lots, ala "how to make > apache do x", or "how do I automate my servers", which I find weird as > that's sysadmin stuff normally (to me). Oddly enough it's a pretty diverse > crowd of folks that are kinda hybrids, done networking, done sysadmin, some > are php/web devs, etc, but lots of system-centric stuff so it tends to work > out for info seekers. I suspect if I went into #sysadmin or like, they'd > know nothing of networking, but #networking tends to come from diverse > enough roots they do this stuff too, or did at one point at least. > > Moral is, there's a lot of crossover these days, and folks need to know > some dev, some sysadmin, and some networking. The line blurs, but people > can't just be like "well, I only do mssql or active directory" anymore, > they're replaceable with shell scripts. I've done unix/linux, some dev, > some dba, some windoze, everything between along with a strong focus and > experience in networking, and it's paid dividends as I figure out what > others don't as a result. > > Comparing to the OSI model of networking, I work mostly layer 1-7 up, but > most dev/app/sysadmins work layer 7 down, and really have no idea below > around layer 5 or so, much to their detriment. Best these days to be well > versed across the board to some extent. Take a ccna class online, even if > you don't get the cert, you'll probably understand things a lot more to > make your life easier. > > -mb > > > On Fri, Jan 7, 2022 at 5:11 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss < > plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > >> >> >> Hi, >> >> I've watched more than a few of NetworkChuck's videos. Here he is on a >> programmer's channel talking about programmers learning networking. >> I've always thought all web programmers have some Linux skills, and >> maybe that is not what he is talking about. >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlN-vMF13QY&t=0s >> >> How does this work for hosting admin? Is there the same demand in the >> hosting admin niche? If so what exactly should one know and what types >> of jobs can they get? >> >> He mentions Python - is that the programming language to know for server >> automation? He also mentioned Perl. I thought Perl was/is dead? >> >> I'm a PHP developer and find a lot of hosting tools such as Plesk and >> ISPConfig are written in PHP and use MySQL. >> >> Your Thoughts? >> >> Thanks!! >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
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