David,
I've liked Linux since I first came to know about it, which was around
1998.
I hope to become M$ free this year. Linux meets all of my needs,
however that was not always the case.
I used to salivate over MACs. They are expensive. I over bought about
10 years ago. My Daily is an i5 with 4 cores and 4 threads. I updated
it to 16GB of RAM years ago and changed to an SSD. I run Kubuntu on it.
I have a second box that is almost identical that is not getting any
use. I bought a Dell mini tower about 10 years ago that might have an
i3 and 6GB of RAM. Did not complete the project I bought it for. I was
going to build a LAMP+ web server and host one of my web sites. Still
on my radar.
I have a lot of old hardware that I can install Linux on and do a
project.
The reason I like Linux over the MAC is I own old hardware, and MAC is
too expensive.
My friend who owns a data center told me he prefers MAC over Linux
because he is tired of fixing Linux.
I attended a Drupal conference at ASU more than a few years ago and most
everyone owned MAC.
I did not know there was a bias on the list.
- Keith
On 2025-05-03 21:30, David Schwartz via PLUG-discuss wrote:
Would someone kindly tell me what’s so special about their favorite
version of Linux is versus MacOS, which is a BSD Unix derivative?
I’ve think I’ve mentioned my harem of Macs:
* 2014 Mac Mini
* 2014 MacBook Pro
* 2018 Mac Mini
* 2024 Mac Mini
They’re all still working just fine, except the MBP’s battery is
bloating up for the 2nd time. (I hardly use it and if you keep it
plugged-in, the battery bloats up.)
I get newer ones because they get faster, handle more RAM and SSD, and
the OS can’t be upgraded past a certain point. Which is why I keep the
older ones around. (The older ones let you upgrade RAM and some the
SSD. With the newer ones, you’re stuck with what it comes with.)
One of them (2018) has a VirtualBox VM on that runs Win10 that I do all
of my Windows-dependent stuff on. I don’t see why I’d need to upgrade
it to Win11, and nobody here has given me anything worth considering.
BTW, I have an older Acer box (maybe from 2000) that’s a bit smaller
than an old Mac Mini that runs Win XP; if anybody wants it to run Linux
on for some reason, let me know.
My point is, the hardware gets old, sometimes degrades (ie, the battery
on the MBP), the latest OS and apps can no longer be upgraded, but it
still works fine if you want to keep using it. I’m not sure why my
older Mac Minis still keep running but everybody thinks my Win10
machines are going to turn into nuclear bombs in a few months just
because MS stops updating them. Cripes, do you know how hard it is to
keep Windows from constatly updating itself anyway? MacOS keeps asking
even though it’s says it can’t if I say OK!
I have apps on both my 2014 and 2018 Mac Minis that will stop working
if I upgrade the OS, so I refuse.
And now it seems you can’t run VMs on M-series CPUs that contain any
version of Windows unless you use one specific version of Parallels
with an ARM-based version of Windows, and it reportedly runs slower
than crap.
Just for fun, I went from 36GB of RAM to 64GB in my 2018 model and
where before the fan would constantly be running, now it never comes
on.
Macs run Unix. It’s not like I’m a crazy-ass Mac fan — I just find them
to be WAY more stable than Windows machines.
When I need to get down to the command-line, the *nix shell is FAR more
powerful than the DOS Command line. But I rarely ever need to do that
on ANY of them lately. I think the only reasons I’ve run the Mac’s
Terminal is to use the shell to find some specific files because find
piped into grep works a whole lot better than the search bar in the
Finder.
So while I understand (and share) the “anti-Windows” sentiments here, I
don’t get the “pro-Linux” but “anti-Mac” attitude because Macs are all
Unix machines at their core.
I’ve tossed out maybe a dozen DOS and Windows machines in my life. My
first Mac (a first gen Intel iMac) died and I actually sold it on eBay
for almost $500! I’ve bought and sold some other Macs and never had to
toss a single one into the trash. I’m not eager to replace the battery
on my MBP again, but it will still be way cheaper than a new MBP.
-David Schwartz
On May 3, 2025, at 4:10 PM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
<[email protected]> wrote:
Thanks Rusty!! I agree!!
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