This is far from a disruption. I am learning a few things myself as I would like to be able to offer much the same thing by replacing some very expensive software with alternative software. for a number of reasons. may voice on this list by many others.
Dogmatic adherance to something you know stifles learning and flexibility. so far the only platform i have grown to dislike in a business setting is Mac/OSX On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Sean Parsons <s...@theparsonsfamily.com> wrote: > All, > I am only new to Linux, been working on computers for longer than I > want to admit. But there is as much bad info/advice about Linux out there as > good and it's not easy to figure that out when your new. How tos don't always > fit the situation and there isn't a lot of helpful direction after that. I > can get opinions about which app is best or what distro I should be using, > which isn't my problem. I could care less at this point what I use... I just > want it to work. Once I figure out what's even possible I can decide to try > variations. I don't want to move to Windows Server 2008 and Windows 7 if I > can help it. > > I had set myself a goal to see if I could eliminate/minimize my > dependency on Microsoft products, and learn/use Linux in 12 months, I'm 7 > months into my timeframe and I haven't gotten much to actually work. I have > attended several gatherings and I've spoken to several people. I've > frequented the IRC channel and other forums looking for advice and perhaps > some guidance. I have tried to implement various small scale projects to test > functionality and to build up my experience. My attempts to do this on my > own have failed. People I've spoken to say; oh, you'll figure it out.... So > far numerous books and multiple attempts have shown that I haven't just > figured it out. I can make Windows Server do just about anything, but I'm not > getting some critical part of Linux toward making it work for me. Hence my > post. > > I didn't ask someone to build a production environment for me or to > provide step by step training. I asked if someone was willing to offer me > help while I worked on this project, somebody who would talk through my plan > and point me in the right direction, and maybe someone who could help me > through some of the rough spots. Hopefully along the way I'd learn some as > well. > > If all this is too much to ask without having to compensate people or > hire them as consultants, then I guess I misunderstood what this user group > was all about. I intend to do the work, I even agreed to share the experience > with anyone else who wanted to work toward my goal. I didn't think I was > being selfish and expecting someone to do it for me. > > I was only asking if someone was willing to offer me advice in a more > one-on-one environment. > > My apologies for causing such a disruption. > > > Sean Parsons > > > -----Original Message----- > From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Lisa > Kachold > Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 4:38 PM > To: Main PLUG discussion list > Subject: Re: Looking for a mentor/adviser > > Hi Sean, > > I would call this Mentor/Advisor a "tutor" or "systems administrator". > > What is the pay? > > Generally, Linux noobs, until they learn the whole concept of open > source, open minds, where they don't pay another for knowledge, since > it's all freely available, just share it, on boards like this one, > will ask for someone to come along and think for them. > > You will find that building your own systems, playing with virtual > systems, building your own OpenExchange, Samba, VirtualBox to cross > platform integrate with Linux and Windoze is GREAT FUN, and very easy, > once you learn to read and follow the directions? > > Seriously you might find someone willing to do this should you barter > goods or services, but that would be more of an on-topic post for > craigslist.org in the Gig or barter sections? > > You might come to the InstallFest and hang around listening to people > like Craig, and Ryan Rix, any of which will answer your questions > happily? > > Welcome to the FOSS world, hold onto your hat, this is a fast furious > and fantasticly fun ride! > > On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Sean Parsons <s...@theparsonsfamily.com> > wrote: >> Matt, >> I haven't selected a distribution, I tried Ubuntu and Debian, and >> didn't have a lot of success. My original post was simply to get someone >> willing to mentor me to help me build as much equivalency as possible so I >> can see if it can be done. How we were going to do this was yet to be >> determined. >> >> I will insist that "IF" I determine it is feasible that support >> contracts will be investigated for at least the short term. >> >> >> Sean Parsons >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> [mailto:plug-discuss-boun...@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Matt >> Iavarone >> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 2:13 PM >> To: Main PLUG discussion list >> Subject: Re: Looking for a mentor/adviser >> >> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Stephen <cryptwo...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> oooo i finally found it in some mail archives... >>> >>> http://www.freeipa.org/page/Main_Page >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Stephen <cryptwo...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Actually there is this project: >>>> >>>> http://directory.fedoraproject.org/ >>>> http://directory.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Howto:WindowsSync >>>> http://directory.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Download >>>> >>>> There is a spin off that i cant remember the name of, but it combined >>>> with that project and adds some additional ease of use with Active >>>> directory. >>>> >>>> That alone is a great start. as for what can be done it really boils >>>> down to what you want i to do. What about exchange do you use? what on >>>> those windows servers do you do what services and functions. knowing >>>> what services you are running will help us advise you on alternatives. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 11:25 AM, <s...@theparsonsfamily.com> wrote: >>>>> I know I am absolutely not interested in muddying the waters by trying >>>>> this with virtualized systems, maybe after I can actually get them to >>>>> work..... I posted previously that I have dedicated hardware to use. >>>>> >>>>> You are also describing a combined network and I have already abandoned >>>>> that idea, so putting another windows server together is not going to be >>>>> what I'm looking for. As far as I can tell Linux doesn't have an AD >>>>> equivalent except Samba 4 which isn't out yet.... Samba 3.x destroyed 2 >>>>> domain controllers trying to join it..... Not going to try that again >>>>> anytime soon.... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sean Parsons >>>>>> I know that personally if you have just a desktop i would start with 3 >>>>>> virtual machines. >>>>>> >>>>>> AD server (windows) Linux server for new AD and then A client >> workstation >>>>>> >>>>>> Virtualbox comes to mind as a nice portable interface for this. and it >>>>>> is cross platform. >>>>>> >>>>>> issue with that is you will need about 4gb of ram to function on this >>>>>> or there about. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 9:58 AM, <s...@theparsonsfamily.com> wrote: >>>>>>> Ok, How would I build this sandbox as a list discussion? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sean Parsons >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I personally agree that this would be great on list discussion. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> even if it is using Linux to support a MS platform, it still would be >>>>>>>> educational for me at least. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 8:16 AM, <s...@theparsonsfamily.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Craig, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ---- >>>>>>>>>> Wouldn't it be more useful and instructive to keep your questions >> on >>>>>>>>>> list? You would benefit from a greater availability of opinions >> too. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Also, it seems a bit unfair to want private advising and deprive >> the >>>>>>>>>> list of the knowledge that is gathered by solving problems which I >>>>>>>>>> would >>>>>>>>>> gather would be rather typical for many offices/businesses. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> There is no need to make changes to an AD environment to add Linux >>>>>>>>>> servers and/or workstations. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Craig >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> This message has been scanned for viruses and >>>>>>>>>> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >>>>>>>>>> believed to be clean. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>>>>>>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>>>>>>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>>>>>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>>>>>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you >> from >>>>>>>> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Stephen >>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>>>>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>>>>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>>>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>>>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from >>>>>> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. >>>>>> >>>>>> Stephen >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from >>>> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. >>>> >>>> Stephen >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from >>> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. >>> >>> Stephen >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >> >> This leads to another important question. What distro are you looking >> at? 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